| degenerate108 |  11/18/2009 2:06:55 PM | Member since: Dec 2008 | | Total posts:1129 |
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I pulled this is balls crazy bulletin off the police site, given the location it sounds like it had to have happened within the city. Why anyone would shoot a pet is beyond me but whats more disturbing is it appears the guilty party may end up getting away with it. Hopefully the kitty survives and the person that shot it gets several teeth kicked in or an intestinal blockage or possibly heart cancer. thoughts?
Animal Shot / Injured
At 12:27 PM on Tuesday, a report was received indicating that someone had shot a woman’s pet cat sometime during the evening of November 13th, 2009. The cat had apparently run away from a residence in the 500 block of 2nd Street around 6:30 PM and returned home around 10:30 PM with a puncture wound to it’s neck. The animal was taken by the owner to a veterinarian, where a small caliber projectile was later removed during surgery. The year and a half old cat was badly injured and may not survive. There are no suspects and the matter is currently under investigation. |
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| *Sba |  11/18/2009 2:12:30 PM | Member since: Feb 2009 | | Total posts:72 |
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That makes me sick how someone could even think about shooting someones pet! Just sickening. |
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| s123 |  11/18/2009 2:14:51 PM | Member since: Jul 2009 | | Total posts:1261 |
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should ever hurt an animal, and there is no reason for it.
but i wish people would be responsible about their cats and not let them run all over. my neighbor lets his out first thing in the morning, and takes it in when it gets dark. it runs all over the neighborhood and all the the neighbors hate it. I've called animal control to pick up the same cat (not my neighbors) 3 different times!!! take care of your cats people! |
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| Cheeky Chuck |  11/18/2009 2:29:00 PM | Member since: Jun 2009 | | Total posts:439 |
| | | The Grinch lives! |  |  |
some people feel it is their right to shoot animals that are loose with a pellet gun to get them off their lawn. They think that it is just a toy and will just sting for a bit and make the pet think twice before coming back. A pellet gun is a weapon and a person can be charged for firing one in a populated area. I have used mine to go hunting grouse up north. Very effective at killing them without scaring the rest of the flock.
This cat escaped, it was not let out so it is not the owners fault. Cats can be very fast when they want out. As for owners letting their cats out all day or all night, they should be fined heavily each time the pet is seen out and about. A warning can be given if the cat escaped once. Escaping daily is no longer and escape. |
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| Mcyeah |  11/18/2009 2:35:59 PM | Member since: Apr 2008 | | Total posts:38 |
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and everyone else.
stop complaining about cats getting out of yards. Keeping cats on leashing is flipping dumb. I have tried and tried and tried to get my cat to stay on one, doesn't work if it were tightened anymore he would suffocate very quickly.
If i try to keep him inside (which i do very much try) he darts out as soon as the door opens a inch.
and another thing have you seen a cat on a leash? looks pretty dumb doesn't it, a dog you can at least build a big enough fence to keep them in, a cat nope they'll jump a 6' fence with ease.
if cat has no tags, sure pick them up take them to the pound, if it has a collar or tag of some sorts it should be left alone (unless it looks like its been out for waay to long and unhealthy) it costs over 100 dollars to get a cat out of the pound. |
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| Opinionated |  11/18/2009 2:45:15 PM | Member since: May 2009 | | Total posts:1057 |
| | | Well... |  |  |
| | Mcyeah said "and everyone else.
stop complaining about cats getting out of yards. Keeping cats on leashing is flipping dumb. I have tried and tried and tried to get my cat to stay on one, doesn't work if it were tightened anymore he would suffocate very quickly.
If i try to keep him inside (which i do very much try) he darts out as soon as the door opens a inch.
and another thing have you seen a cat on a leash? looks pretty dumb doesn't it, a dog you can at least build a big enough fence to keep them in, a cat nope they'll jump a 6' fence with ease.
if cat has no tags, sure pick them up take them to the pound, if it has a collar or tag of some sorts it should be left alone (unless it looks like its been out for waay to long and unhealthy) it costs over 100 dollars to get a cat out of the pound. " |
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If a cat comes on to my property and causes damage (poops, claws open my garbage, digs up my flowers) then yes, I WILL call the pound whether it has a collar or not. Why would I leave it alone just because I know it has a home? If it has a home, that is where it should be, not on my property.
You think a cat looks dumb on a leash? I think a cat looks dumb flattened on the road becaue it's owner let it out and it got run over. Who cares if it looks stupid on a leash?
If cat owners are worried about the cost of getting their cat out of the pound, they will do the RESPONSIBLE thing and keep the cat indoors or on a leash. If you aren't willing to do this, you should not own a cat.
As for the OP - My guess is someone was either really annoyed with this cat on their property, or their were some dumb ass teens out "having fun" with a pellet gun. I don't like cats and get really annoyed when they are on my property, but I would never hurt one and hope whoever did this is caught and charged. Edited by Opinionated, 2009-11-18 14:48:34 |
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| Cheeky Chuck |  11/18/2009 2:46:34 PM | Member since: Jun 2009 | | Total posts:439 |
| | | Cats do well on a leash |  |  |
If you train your cat on a harness that go around the front legs they do fine. All of my cats have been indoor cats, they have no need to go outside since they can get all the exercise they need inside and only once have I had one escape. After spending the night out at -30, since I didn't notice it get out, it ran in come morning and never wanted to go out after that.
Cats can be trained to respond to commands and can be retrained to be an indoor cat. I have done it with patience and perseverance. |
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| s123 |  11/18/2009 2:51:02 PM | Member since: Jul 2009 | | Total posts:1261 |
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| | Mcyeah said "and everyone else.
stop complaining about cats getting out of yards. Keeping cats on leashing is flipping dumb. I have tried and tried and tried to get my cat to stay on one, doesn't work if it were tightened anymore he would suffocate very quickly.
If i try to keep him inside (which i do very much try) he darts out as soon as the door opens a inch.
and another thing have you seen a cat on a leash? looks pretty dumb doesn't it, a dog you can at least build a big enough fence to keep them in, a cat nope they'll jump a 6' fence with ease.
if cat has no tags, sure pick them up take them to the pound, if it has a collar or tag of some sorts it should be left alone (unless it looks like its been out for waay to long and unhealthy) it costs over 100 dollars to get a cat out of the pound. " |
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your cat were a dog it would not be allowed. why should i have a cat digging in my garden and pooping in my kid's sandbox when I DON'T OWN ONE. so I should just put up with trying not to kill my neighbors cat when it decides to take a nap in the middle of the street (which it does). One of my neighbors has theirs on a leash and it`s perfectly well behaved.
the cat i`ve called animal control on gets kicked and rocks thrown at it because it lies in the middle of the school playrgound and doesn`t move. anybody who loves their cat wouldn`t allow that. you don`t know what happens to it when it leaves you and is gone all day. |
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| Mcyeah |  11/18/2009 2:58:18 PM | Member since: Apr 2008 | | Total posts:38 |
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PEOPLE are not the OWNERS of this earth.
Cats have every right to live outside wherever and whenever they please.
you have a cat pooping in a sandbox? why dont you have that sandbox covered lots of other animals poop too you know, and as for garbage ya also WE HAVE BIG PLASTIC GARBAGE CANS your garbage should not be strewn about in plastic bags outside, cats are not they only animals running around especialy at night.
give your heads a shake people your not so godly yourselves although on ebrandon everyone seems to think they are.
and to the person concerened that I am not using an acutal harness, I am. The cat just tears around the yard, flipping and rolling all over until he breaks free. |
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| Cheeky Chuck |  11/18/2009 3:02:36 PM | Member since: Jun 2009 | | Total posts:439 |
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With your attitude I wouldn't want to be your cat. cats also have the right to be sick and die, so I guess taking it to the vet would be wrong. Keeping a loved one safe is your responsibility. Would you let your kid jump around the car because it doesn't like being in a car seat? Same thing. The leash may restrict but keeps them safe. It the cat won't stay on the leash keep it inside for it's own safety. |
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| Mcyeah |  11/18/2009 3:05:55 PM | Member since: Apr 2008 | | Total posts:38 |
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my old cat used to climb any available tree or ledge whatever and jump off to hang itself and would strugle until it was free (luckily that's not how she died)i still dont know how she got out of that harness but most afternoons i'd look out and just see a dangling leash.
you can all spout your garbage about cats running around terrorizing the elderly with excessive purring and all the rest but you will never get me to belive that the stupid bylaw is anything but a cash grab.
PEACE |
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| Mcyeah |  11/18/2009 3:20:20 PM | Member since: Apr 2008 | | Total posts:38 |
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actually my cat is very happy and healthy, keeping him inside makes him anxouis (which is why he tries so often to escape derrrrrr). He gets all his shots and has been to the vet numerous times. Iam not really sure where youre going with that?
in fact think you should be kept away from your computer if all you do is spout things without a HINT of accuracy.
why would I let my kid jump around in moving vehicles? is that something you do? if so I think you should go to jail and have your kids forcibly removed from your home. hows it feel to have accusations just made up and thrown at you.
have a great day! |
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| Brenda |  11/18/2009 3:32:55 PM | Member since: Jul 2005 | | Total posts:5235 |
| | | my yard |  |  |
| | Mcyeah said "PEOPLE are not the OWNERS of this earth.
Cats have every right to live outside wherever and whenever they please.
you have a cat pooping in a sandbox? why dont you have that sandbox covered lots of other animals poop too you know, and as for garbage ya also WE HAVE BIG PLASTIC GARBAGE CANS your garbage should not be strewn about in plastic bags outside, cats are not they only animals running around especialy at night.
give your heads a shake people your not so godly yourselves although on ebrandon everyone seems to think they are.
and to the person concerened that I am not using an acutal harness, I am. The cat just tears around the yard, flipping and rolling all over until he breaks free. " |
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I don't own a cat and I don't expect to see one in my yard.....so why would I have to cover my sandbox? Why should a cat in the neighborhood ruin my flowers, etc.?
Cats are not stupid and can be trained. If a owner was rellly responsibile they would either keep their cats inside or train them properly to stay in their own yard - yes it can be done. |
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| Opinionated |  11/18/2009 3:37:05 PM | Member since: May 2009 | | Total posts:1057 |
| | | Mcyeah |  |  |
Firstly, cats do not have a right to live outside wherever they please any more than you or I do. That is ridiclous and that comment alone makes me wonder if you are even an adult.
So let me get this straight....YOUR cat should have more rights when it comes to MY property then I do? I think not. As for cats getting into my garbage, I happen to live in a 2nd floor apartment and had a problem with a cat reguarly coming up on our deck and digging in our flower pots and shredding our garbage. Yes, as is my right, we occasionally put a bag of garbage out on the deck at night to be taken out back to the bins in the morning. Shouldn't be a problem, since you have to go up two flights of stairs to get to the deck. Never had a dog up there, just cats, and I'm sure of this because we saw it several times, and eventually caught it in a cat trap.
And are you honestly suggesting that S123 spends HER money on a sandbox cover to keep YOUR cat out?? Yeah, lots of animals poop, but it's usually only cats who do it your sandbox and flower gardens. Nobody should have to spend their own money to stop someone elses cat from destroying their property.
Face it, if you really cared about your cat you would keep him safe. Don't come crying on here when someone shoots it with a pellet gun or runs it over. Your reasoning is immature. For the sake of your pets...grow up! |
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| degenerate108 |  11/18/2009 3:46:08 PM | Member since: Dec 2008 | | Total posts:1129 |
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| | Opinionated said "Firstly, cats do not have a right to live outside wherever they please any more than you or I do. That is ridiclous and that comment alone makes me wonder if you are even an adult.
So let me get this straight....YOUR cat should have more rights when it comes to MY property then I do? I think not. As for cats getting into my garbage, I happen to live in a 2nd floor apartment and had a problem with a cat reguarly coming up on our deck and digging in our flower pots and shredding our garbage. Yes, as is my right, we occasionally put a bag of garbage out on the deck at night to be taken out back to the bins in the morning. Shouldn't be a problem, since you have to go up two flights of stairs to get to the deck. Never had a dog up there, just cats, and I'm sure of this because we saw it several times, and eventually caught it in a cat trap.
And are you honestly suggesting that S123 spends HER money on a sandbox cover to keep YOUR cat out?? Yeah, lots of animals poop, but it's usually only cats who do it your sandbox and flower gardens. Nobody should have to spend their own money to stop someone elses cat from destroying their property.
Face it, if you really cared about your cat you would keep him safe. Don't come crying on here when someone shoots it with a pellet gun or runs it over. Your reasoning is immature. For the sake of your pets...grow up! " |
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OP wasn't about whether it's appropriate to let cats roam free, we all know LEGALLY it's not. I'm not advocating the free range of any pets, nor do i care to partake in that discussion. Personally i don't think pets should be outside unless they're on a leash. Further animal owners in general fail. Ever see people walking their dogs without the leash attached?
I don't care about sandboxes or poop, i do care about idiot rednecks firing any fire arm off within city limits especially at living things and so should you.
I was hoping this thread would get this story out in the open since i find it greatly concerning people would take matters into their own hands like this especially when we have a system in place already.
We've used animal control more than once and had success in all instances. |
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| Miss |  11/18/2009 3:46:10 PM | Member since: Nov 2009 | | Total posts:155 |
| | | UGHHHHHHHH |  |  |
I hope whoever hurt that cat gets what's coming to them. What a terrible thing to do, no matter where the cat was or what it was doing no one should ever shoot one. If for some reason, as most of you are bickering about, the cat was in someones yerd it doesn't matter, call the pound, don't shoot the poor thing.
Chances are it was not a case of that though, but just some stupid people thinking they were better than any other living thing on earth.
we humans do not deserve this world. it is far to beautiful. |
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| north_of_53 |  11/18/2009 3:50:00 PM | Member since: Apr 2008 | | Total posts:50 |
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if someone did that to my pets it wouldnt be small caliber anything. people with no regard dont deserve small consequences. |
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| dean mca |  11/18/2009 4:01:34 PM | Member since: Nov 2009 | | Total posts:29 |
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the things you say are almost laughable, you talk about your cat like it royalty and is more important than another human being. i hate to be rude seeing as this is my first post ever on ebrandon, but c'mon give your head a shake.
p.s. if your old cat hanged itself to escape the first few times why the H E double hockey sticks did you think it wouldnt do it again? maybe shorten the leash? move it somehere out of range from the fence or tree? and also if i ever find a cat in my lawn im obviously not gonna shoot it with my gun but i might hose him down or throw a shoe at him to get him out of there.
as for my opinion on the topic....
i dont care what the situation is there is laws and rules to contain the neighborhood, noone has the right to shoot it, thats just crossing the line. i mean like i said if your really annoyed at the kitty throw a shoe or something, get the message across but dont shoot it. just the other day i witnessed a neighbor screaming at a cat to get the **** of her lawn as if the poor kitty could understand, the next day i found the same cat in my garage out back, clearly i didnt want the cat in there so i took him gave him a good pettin' and put him out on the lawn and let him run along. people need to understand that cats are stupid, stupid animals and all they want is to live their lives, if they screw up feel free to correct them but keep it within reason!
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| twin_mommy |  11/18/2009 5:53:31 PM | Member since: Oct 2009 | | Total posts:23 |
| | | Same responsibility as Dogs |  |  |
I think it is awful that someone would shoot a pet that is wandering. That's just wrong.
Cat owners have the same responsibility as dog owners to keep their animals within their control. If my animals got out, I would be responsible for the trouble they got into.
So when a cat gets into someone's garbage or garden to what extent can the property owner go to get rid of the violating animal?
Animal control in Brandon is a joke unless it's a dog.
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| Morriggaine |  11/18/2009 5:56:02 PM | Member since: Jun 2008 | | Total posts:439 |
| | | This cat |  |  |
that you're posting about, is a friend's friends cat.....he's at home, and from what I understand when they xrayed the cat, the bullet was sitting on his spine just behind his neck...at first the girl thought her cat got hit with a BB gun, but then found out it was a 22.......as of last nite, my friend said kitty was at home and that the cat had escaped the nite it got shot and then after getting shot dragged itself home until the girl found her kitty.
My thoughts are with the girl and her cat...who's like her child. Edited by Morriggaine, 2009-11-18 17:57:57 |
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| Captain Obvious |  11/18/2009 6:02:16 PM | Member since: Jul 2009 | | Total posts:777 |
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Your cat has a right to wander free? Even if it gets in my yard? Well, my dog has a right then i guess to wander around my yard attacking any cats it see's too.
I guess you shouldn't complain when kitty doesn't come home and you find him/her dead on the road or someone's lawn. |
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| Morriggaine |  11/18/2009 6:36:32 PM | Member since: Jun 2008 | | Total posts:439 |
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Band wagon, as I own 4 cats.
My one cat, put a leash on her and she pulls diva and looks at you like you've just given her bad food....and that's BEFORE you take her outside...once outside she again flops over and glares at you.
Her sister, well, I swear she was a dog in a past life, I can't even MOVE the leash from one spot to another without her at the door stretched up ready to get strapped in and go outside.
The two little ones, don't like going outside really...but they like yelling at the squirrels in the yard from inside, put a harness on them and take them out so the squirrel can hear them...forget it. LOL
As for the first two cats in my post...they used to be famous escape artists since they were 3 months old, and now they're 8 years old. I tried everything I could to keep them inside: but there was sometimes when they would get out and I wouldn't realize it for a bit: due to bringing home groceries or having to rush to the bathroom. And even if it was only 15 minutes they were outside, by the time I realized it, they were ready to come inside. So sometimes, just sometimes, maybe, the cat escapes before we realize it....does that give you the right to shoot my cat with a 22...I don't think so. |
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| fgt |  11/18/2009 6:54:04 PM | Member since: Sep 2009 | | Total posts:45 |
| | | to miss |  |  |
it appears the guy who shot at the cat just didn't use a big enough gun....what a silly mistake....use a bigger gun and dispose properly of the carcass and NOBODY will never know what happened to kitty...just kidding of course....but cats living outside are easy prey for coyotes. Don't think coyotes live in urban areas??? Get Real. If you are one of those folks who put your cat OUT at night...trust me your pets days are numbered....it's just a matter of time until they become coyote food. |
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| Mcyeah |  11/18/2009 6:57:51 PM | Member since: Apr 2008 | | Total posts:38 |
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i actually tried to clear things up on all this but my posts were all deleted, mostly because i said i did this to see how mad all of you got (which was very, thanks by the way i enjoyed every second of it)
never once did i say my cat had a right to be in anyones yard, but an animal has a right to be outside, especially harmless ones (i've been bitten by cats as well as small dogs guess what one hurts more SMALL DOG)
hey cpt oblivious what if your dog got out and found someones cat in their yard all nicely tied up....hmmm looked like a nice treat to bad that animal couldn't have gotten away yum yum.
ha i find this whole thread very amusing im sorry that you all have a case of tightened rectum.
i wish you all well!!! have a nice evening |
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| Brenda |  11/18/2009 7:07:18 PM | Member since: Jul 2005 | | Total posts:5235 |
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you find this amusing? Well, go wander the streets and maybe someone can site their pellet gun in. How rude that you would find someone's pet getting shot at amusing or even try and take this thread away from the seriousness of the situation.
According to this article, it says the cat may not make it.
http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/manitoba/2009/11/18/11797061.html
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| Linnie |  11/18/2009 7:10:39 PM | Member since: Apr 2009 | | Total posts:41 |
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started this thread to bring our attention to a shooting inside the city. Whether it was just a cat or not, it could have been a child. That is scary!!
On a separate note, after reading this thread I didn't realize there were so many cat haters in Brandon. |
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| Sean |  11/18/2009 7:16:03 PM | Member since: May 2008 | | Total posts:108 |
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I don't have a dog but I keep getting dog crap in my yard. It was great fun cleaning it off my kids clothes and our shoes after playing in the leaves this fall. If you can't keep your animals in your own yard then maybe you shouldn't have an animal in town. You have to be responsible for your animals so if they are not in your yard and they get hurt somehow, look in the mirror. |
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| Mcyeah |  11/18/2009 7:21:35 PM | Member since: Apr 2008 | | Total posts:38 |
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did you even read my posts?? nope
(i dont belive i actually addressed the op's original subject and for the record i don't condone animal cruelty far from it actually)
just a little tip, try reading before replying, however unlike your wishes towards myself I hope you DONT find yourselve's in those crazy peoples sites, as always have a super day!!
and Linnie, that's exactly why i started my rants (all the cat haters on ebrandon which i have found in many many threads, and NO NOT EVERYONE who's ever been on ebrandon so everyone calm down) but so far i've had people tell me my cat should be taken away because im a bad owner somehow, my cat should be eaten, shot at, kicked. Look I dont even like my cat that all much (kids cat) but i do my best and keep him safe, clean and healthy.
good times folks good times Edited by Mcyeah, 2009-11-18 19:24:25 |
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| Captain Obvious |  11/18/2009 7:27:26 PM | Member since: Jul 2009 | | Total posts:777 |
| | | nope. |  |  |
My dog wouldn't get out, she's very well trained and even if she somehow got off her leash (which she wouldn't, she won't even try) she would stay in the yard. I don't allow my pet to go onto other people's property, and i take care to make sure she doesn't. Like i said, she's very well trained, she won't bite, leave the yard, or run away. (FYI, she'll chase a cat once she's given permission to do so, but not before. Don't worry, i give the command often, i don't like cats pawing through my veggie and flower gardens.) I'm a responsible pet owner who doesn't expect everyone else to be responsible for my pets. Perhaps its time for you to grow up mcyeah and learn to take responsibility as well? |
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| Mcyeah |  11/18/2009 7:50:45 PM | Member since: Apr 2008 | | Total posts:38 |
| | | ok ok |  |  |
look oblivious i have a CAT they dont normally do comands like a dog OBVIOUSLY since when i chase it i can't seem to COMMAND it to come back to me )but oh how i've tried, i really have)
-I also have a fenced in yard 5-6' in some areas but once again if the kids open the door even the slightest bit (and sometimes myself) the little bstrd runs right out. It doesn't take much for a cat to get over a 5-6' fence.
-I also him in a harness when he's is ALLOWED to come outside. And though it is tight enough that anymore would probably strangle him he still manages to escape. Cats can and will get out of a harness if they really want to.
-the cat gets his shots and goes to the vet for check ups.
-he's been fixed so he's not some tomcat on the prowl.
-the litter box is cleaned regularly.
-the cat is well fed.
please, someone tell me how I am not being responsible?
just so you know cpt i am very proud of your dog. |
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