| na |  11/19/2009 8:58:40 AM | Member since: Mar 2009 | | Total posts:94 |
| | | I am losing my mind. |  |  |
So here's the facts:
-friend, 11 days till due date
-is using a family dr as dr of choice to deliver
-has been in so much pain and agony the last month
Now here's my "issue". She went for her prenatal check up a couple weeks back and was told she was having contractions so she went home and waited it out, that night she goes to emerg saying she is in so much pain she wants to have the baby, they cant do anything so she goes home. The next week when she see's the dr he tells her that the baby is breech and backwards and that would be why she isnt dilating but having contractions then continues to tell her that the baby is gaining to much wait and that she needs to have an emergency ultra sound to determine if she needs a c section or induction, this was 2 weeks ago! She calls every day to see when the ultra sound is telling them it was supposed to be an emergency and nothing.
So my peeve is why doesnt her dr call over to the labour and delivery ward and get them to admit her and then do an ultra sound? When I had my baby thats exactly what they did, right in the room. I dunno if I am freaking out over nothing but I would hate to have something happen to her or the baby because they cant get their heads on straight. |
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| Big Mamma |  11/19/2009 9:06:48 AM | Member since: Oct 2009 | | Total posts:576 |
| | | maybe |  |  |
they are hopeing the baby turns itself.If the Dr isn't concerned about it I wouldn't be . |
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| Mom2Boys |  11/19/2009 9:07:09 AM | Member since: Mar 2008 | | Total posts:1419 |
| | | dont know.. |  |  |
they must not consider it enough of an emergency. recently i had to have an emergency ultrasound and i got in the next day. so everything must be "ok" enough to wait it out a bit, and let others ahead of is what i am guessing. again i dont know though, but usually doctors know what is ok and what is major serious.
if she is really worried, tell her to go to the emergency room. those people get the ultrasounds first. |
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| na |  11/19/2009 9:08:53 AM | Member since: Mar 2009 | | Total posts:94 |
| | | Easy to understand |  |  |
Just why would he get her all worked up and say she needed an emergency ultra sound if it wasnt an emergency? Sorry im just worried as much as she is. |
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| Soul |  11/19/2009 9:13:56 AM | Member since: Aug 2006 | | Total posts:1549 |
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| | Mom2Boys said "they must not consider it enough of an emergency. recently i had to have an emergency ultrasound and i got in the next day. so everything must be "ok" enough to wait it out a bit, and let others ahead of is what i am guessing. again i dont know though, but usually doctors know what is ok and what is major serious.
if she is really worried, tell her to go to the emergency room. those people get the ultrasounds first. " |
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Mom2Boys, I need to disagree. The emergency is for those with emergency needs and if she is already under the care of a physician, the ER is not a place for 2nd opinions. I am sure many of us have had insane waits in the ER and this is one of the contributing reasons.
People often go for things that could be better checked with family doctors or OBGYN. If people try to circumvent priority listings, then it bungs up the system.
That is just my opinion.
I have had a kazillion ultrasounds and if it is deemed an emergency, trust me, they will do one. |
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| Soul |  11/19/2009 9:24:40 AM | Member since: Aug 2006 | | Total posts:1549 |
| | | oh and |  |  |
I needed to add ... *to me* it sounds as if they pregnancy itself is not in a state of emergency but the method of delivery will need to be determined. And this can be done right in the labour ward as well when necessary, if that happens first (before scheduled ultrasound).
As an expectant mom in the final days of pregnancy, time can seem to stand still and the discomfort and agony can be antagonized by the anxiety of what is to come. I can only imagine how often obstetricians decisions are met with anger or depression when their opinions are contrary to what a mother wishes. I am, hands down, guilty of that.
Try a twin pregnancy with your pubic bone separating and a baby buried under your right ribs ;) |
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| craftymom |  11/19/2009 10:36:56 AM | Member since: Sep 2008 | | Total posts:1161 |
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it was an emergency, they would have done an ultrasound already, I have had a few with each baby I had, the doctor would order one that needed to be done, and I would be in either later that day or the next. If you are in emergency and they want an ultrasound you will be taken immedietly. Perhaps it is not quite the emergency she thinks it is, and maybe the contractions are stil braxton hicks.
In any case she is not comfortable with the situation, and needs to have a discussion with her doctor. She needs to call, or go see him, and ask what is happening, and what the plan is, and not be scared or shy, and keep asking until she is satisfied with the answers. She can also ask to see another doctor to get another opinion if she wants, and the doctor should accomidate that. It is a nerve racking time, I wish your frind all the best in this journey! |
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| twin_mommy |  11/19/2009 11:12:11 AM | Member since: Oct 2009 | | Total posts:23 |
| | | Not so good |  |  |
I have had nothing but bad experiences with the maternity floor in Brandon. The nurses were rude to me and some of the doctors didn't take the time to explain what was going on. I had to go into emerg when I was preg with my twins and they made me feel stupid and were kinda mean. They made me cry.
It was my first pregnancy and I was hormonal and I just wanted them to be nice to me.
I've heard terrible stories about the way people have been treated on the Mat floor, so tell your friend that nothing will change. No matter how many times she calls.
(I recommend the Women's hospital in Winnipeg. Everyone was sooooo nice and friendly and informative!) |
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| i_love_brandon |  11/19/2009 11:19:10 AM | Member since: Apr 2008 | | Total posts:54 |
| | | doctors |  |  |
I think crafty mom had some great ideas as to what needs to happen. I think with the healthcare system in Canada we need to be advocates for ourselves. I have heard recently of a horror story with a expectant mom going to the hospital repeatidly and was sent home saying it was not time yet. The baby ended up being stillborn directly due to neglegence on the part of the hospital. I would hate to hear of another tragety like this! Tell your friend to advocate for herself. Try calling, call every hour until you get answers. If that doesn't work, escalate your concerns to the appropriate people, if that doesnt work, show up at the hospital and don't leave until you are helped.
Good luck!
Remember, doctors are only people. They have good days and bad, and have the ability to make mistakes. |
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| Soul |  11/19/2009 11:40:45 AM | Member since: Aug 2006 | | Total posts:1549 |
| | | oh |  |  |
| | Amanda said "I think crafty mom had some great ideas as to what needs to happen. I think with the healthcare system in Canada we need to be advocates for ourselves. I have heard recently of a horror story with a expectant mom going to the hospital repeatidly and was sent home saying it was not time yet. The baby ended up being stillborn directly due to neglegence on the part of the hospital. I would hate to hear of another tragety like this! Tell your friend to advocate for herself. Try calling, call every hour until you get answers. If that doesn't work, escalate your concerns to the appropriate people, if that doesnt work, show up at the hospital and don't leave until you are helped.
Good luck!
Remember, doctors are only people. They have good days and bad, and have the ability to make mistakes. " |
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just to clarify, which hospital was this? |
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| Morriggaine |  11/19/2009 2:54:58 PM | Member since: Jun 2008 | | Total posts:439 |
| | | This |  |  |
| | Amanda said "I think crafty mom had some great ideas as to what needs to happen. I think with the healthcare system in Canada we need to be advocates for ourselves. I have heard recently of a horror story with a expectant mom going to the hospital repeatidly and was sent home saying it was not time yet. The baby ended up being stillborn directly due to neglegence on the part of the hospital. I would hate to hear of another tragety like this! Tell your friend to advocate for herself. Try calling, call every hour until you get answers. If that doesn't work, escalate your concerns to the appropriate people, if that doesnt work, show up at the hospital and don't leave until you are helped.
Good luck!
Remember, doctors are only people. They have good days and bad, and have the ability to make mistakes. " |
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also happened to my best friend, except she had gone to walk in's telling them something was wrong and nobody would listen to her...without going into too much detail (as it's not my story to tell), that was 4 years ago, and she still struggles that she had a stillborn.
I have to agree with everyone else on here...pull "Diva" until someone listens LOL...but seriously, you are the only one who can talk for your baby...and keep demanding to know answers to your questions!! |
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| Jess123 |  11/19/2009 5:23:46 PM | Member since: Nov 2008 | | Total posts:34 |
| | | OBGYN |  |  |
I've always used an OBGYN right from the start so I am unsure of the procedure but don't family doctors only look after a pregnancy until a certain point?
I would highly recommend getting a referral to an OBGYN, they deal with pregnancies day in and day out. I personally find mine to be very thorough! I am due to deliver within the next few weeks and my doc was concerned about our dates.....we were in for an emergency ultrasound that same day. My last appt a few days ago my doc was concerned about the heart rate, we were sent up to maternity for a non-stress test immediately!
My advice to your friend is trust your instincts......mom knows best! Get to an OBGYN and push for answers! Good luck!
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| CT |  11/19/2009 5:43:03 PM | Member since: Jul 2009 | | Total posts:617 |
| | | happened |  |  |
| | Soul said "| | Amanda said "I think crafty mom had some great ideas as to what needs to happen. I think with the healthcare system in Canada we need to be advocates for ourselves. I have heard recently of a horror story with a expectant mom going to the hospital repeatidly and was sent home saying it was not time yet. The baby ended up being stillborn directly due to neglegence on the part of the hospital. I would hate to hear of another tragety like this! Tell your friend to advocate for herself. Try calling, call every hour until you get answers. If that doesn't work, escalate your concerns to the appropriate people, if that doesnt work, show up at the hospital and don't leave until you are helped.
Good luck!
Remember, doctors are only people. They have good days and bad, and have the ability to make mistakes. " |
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just to clarify, which hospital was this? " |
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in the Hospital right here in brandon (if we're talking about the same person lol, if not than its happened to more than one) |
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| Soul |  11/19/2009 5:49:03 PM | Member since: Aug 2006 | | Total posts:1549 |
| | | okay |  |  |
well, has it been legally proven as negligence? |
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| ConstantReader |  11/19/2009 8:04:38 PM | Member since: Oct 2009 | | Total posts:111 |
| | | Questionable experience |  |  |
If your friend is 11 days from her due day, and her troubles began 14 days ago, it seems as though she should have seen her doctor already and had the matter dealt with. Your friend wouldn't be waiting 2 weeks for an emergency ultrsound.
Pregnancy at the end of term is usually painful to some degree....and I've had three children, all overdue 7+ days. It was tough for different reasons each time.
I had a great experience when I delivered at BGH this summer...sorry to hear that others have not. It's very hard to advocate for yourself when you are vulnerable, having just given birth.
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| RF |  11/19/2009 8:07:41 PM | Member since: Apr 2008 | | Total posts:142 |
| | | to eliminate the unfair benefit reduction of retired and disabled Canadian Forces and RCMP service pensions. |  |  |
Bill C-201 was defeated today by Conservative and Liberal members of the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs (ACVA). At the committee, Conservative MPs voted against the bill and two Liberal MPs abstained. One Liberal MP, the Bloc Quebecois, and the NDP supported the bill. Unfortunately, the lack of support by the Conservatives and Liberals means that Bill C-201 will not be going to the House for third reading and is effectively dead.
Bill C-201 aimed to eliminate the unfair benefit reduction of retired and disabled Canadian Forces and RCMP service pensions. Opposition members did not support the bill because of the supposed financial cost of implementing the bill. The government suggested that eliminating the deduction at age 65 (or earlier if disabled) would be cost prohibitive. While I suggested that a variety of options exist to offset these potential costs, Conservative and Liberal MPs did not agree to move the bill forward.
While I am disappointed that the bill was defeated, here was some success along the way. As well, several major veterans organizations including the Royal Canadian Legion (500,000 members), the Army, Navy & Air Force Veterans in Canada Association (20,000 members), and the Air Force Association in Canada (12,000 members) expressed their support for this initiative. And, at the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs, we were successful in convincing CF and RCMP pension administrators that more communication is needed about how and why service pensions are reduced at age 65 or earlier.
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