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Adam

3/29/2011 3:25:49 PM
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Westman Immigrant Services to take over historic CP building

A hot topic of discussion in recent years has been the fate of the old CP building downtown on Pacific Ave, which currently sits vacant. I've been told this afternoon that Westman Immigrant Services will soon be taking over the entire space.  
 
As the immigrant population in Brandon has grown, Westman Immigrant Services has grown along with it. Five years ago they had a staff of just four people, they are now up to 25 as well as 20 full time/part time teachers. That kind of leads in to the reason for their move into the space, which according to directory Leslie Allen is to bring their EAL and settlement services together under the same roof and allow them to increase services to clients. It also has to be seen as a very fitting arrangement when you consider the history of the building and how many immigrants from the past have walked the same floors after arriving by train.  
 
They are targeting September 1 to be operating out of their new location

 
 
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SJK

3/29/2011 3:38:34 PM
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Isn't that currently

  
Adam said "A hot topic of discussion in recent years has been the fate of the old CP building downtown on Pacific Ave, which currently sits vacant. I've been told this afternoon that Westman Immigrant Services will soon be taking over the entire space.  
 
As the immigrant population in Brandon has grown, Westman Immigrant Services has grown along with it. Five years ago they had a staff of just four people, they are now up to 25 as well as 20 full time/part time teachers. That kind of leads in to the reason for their move into the space, which according to directory Leslie Allen is to bring their EAL and settlement services together under the same roof and allow them to increase services to clients. It also has to be seen as a very fitting arrangement when you consider the history of the building and how many immigrants from the past have walked the same floors after arriving by train.  
 
They are targeting September 1 to be operating out of their new location "

owned by John Hooker.  
 
I'm interested to know where the money comes from to appease Brandon and Area Planning as I have friends who actually put an offer in to buy that building but BAPD was just insane as to what had to be done.  
 
Mmmm interesting!

TruthbeTold

3/29/2011 3:42:21 PM
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This is great

I hope they make a sort of museum/display area showcasing the immigration roots of the area. The casino in Regina has so many old pictures of the station in it's hey-day, this would be great for Brandon.

Adam

3/29/2011 5:53:45 PM
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History

A nice collection of pictures from the Hillman archives that show the history of the station:  
http://www.hillmanweb.com/brandon/cpr.html  
 
SJK I'll do a little more digging and see what I can find out

Pioneer

3/29/2011 6:33:07 PM
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Curious

as to who pays the bills for Westman Immigrant Services

Ryan_M

3/29/2011 6:35:43 PM
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Yeah

  
SJK said "
  
Adam said "A hot topic of discussion in recent years has been the fate of the old CP building downtown on Pacific Ave, which currently sits vacant. I've been told this afternoon that Westman Immigrant Services will soon be taking over the entire space.  
 
As the immigrant population in Brandon has grown, Westman Immigrant Services has grown along with it. Five years ago they had a staff of just four people, they are now up to 25 as well as 20 full time/part time teachers. That kind of leads in to the reason for their move into the space, which according to directory Leslie Allen is to bring their EAL and settlement services together under the same roof and allow them to increase services to clients. It also has to be seen as a very fitting arrangement when you consider the history of the building and how many immigrants from the past have walked the same floors after arriving by train.  
 
They are targeting September 1 to be operating out of their new location "

owned by John Hooker.  
 
I'm interested to know where the money comes from to appease Brandon and Area Planning as I have friends who actually put an offer in to buy that building but BAPD was just insane as to what had to be done.  
 
Mmmm interesting! "

The Hooker Family owns that building....  
 
 
I hope the roof is sound.

Debra A

3/29/2011 6:49:10 PM
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CP building

I also wonder who is paying for up-keep and staff wages etc. My husband immigrated here and only had to make one trip to Winnipeg. Also he speaks and writes english, one of the requirements to immigrate. I think Maple Leaf should step up to the plate and start showing responsiblity for all these workers they hire.

Sun_Girl

3/29/2011 7:17:35 PM
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I agree

Maple Leaf brings the workers here but makes them fend for themselves when it comes to learning and adapting to Canadian culture and way of life.  
 
I was at the lab in the hospital the other day and 6 people there couldn't speak a word of english nor could they understand what was being asked of them. Totally unfair.  
 
So either services aren't offered or the workers may not be interested in learning english...or maybe a bit of both? Who is to say really....but if I was in another country I would at least attempt to speak enough of their language to carry on living there!

traveller

3/29/2011 7:22:40 PM
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:)

  
Sun_Girl said "Maple Leaf brings the workers here but makes them fend for themselves when it comes to learning and adapting to Canadian culture and way of life.  
 
I was at the lab in the hospital the other day and 6 people there couldn't speak a word of english nor could they understand what was being asked of them. Totally unfair.  
 
So either services aren't offered or the workers may not be interested in learning english...or maybe a bit of both? Who is to say really....but if I was in another country I would at least attempt to speak enough of their language to carry on living there! "

well in their defense it does take a while to learn a new language maybe they are working on it ?  
 
i always thought that building would be nice full of little shops or something, it sure does look like it was nice

Sun_Girl

3/29/2011 7:29:29 PM
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I agree Traveller

That building could be beautifully restored and brought back to it's former glory with some money and time. I always envisioned it would be a great historical site and to me it looks like a Police Precinct you see in the movies LOL

tanya lynn

3/29/2011 7:35:50 PM
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our office was told

that workers compensation was moving into that building. i wonder what happened then?  
as far as i know canadian immigration center pays a portion to help folks so i imagine they are funded multiple ways, from feds, province as well as municiple governments.

pejk

3/29/2011 8:41:44 PM
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CP Building

Great to hear the building will be put to good use.

Jaime B07

3/29/2011 8:42:09 PM
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In my defense...

I'm an immigrant and It seems that you have no idea about why some people are not taking english classes? I'll list some reasons:  
 
- Westman immigrant services has very long waiting list.  
 
- people have no enuogh time.  
 
-and other are lazy.  
 
The most important is that there is a lot of people trying their best.

Exhausted

3/29/2011 9:38:59 PM
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2 official languages

just a reminder that not everyone has to just speak English. French is our other official language so it may be that they speak that. Not saying they do but there are 2 choices.  
 
I do agree though that Maple Leaf should be paying for their employees to have language classes. That wouldn't include their families though. The waiting list wouldn't matter then as Maple Leaf would be having their own classes for their employees.  
 
This really is a work place and health safety issue. If you are working, you need to be able to communicate at least verbally in one of the official languages. As there are many Canadians which are illiterate in the written word saying that it is major requirement may not be so.  
 
The best way to learn any language is to basically thrown in the culture without any other options. Total immersion. Unfortunately more and more businesses including banks are making it easier to speak various other languages by having those options there. So the need to learn and adapt quickly isn't there.

Adam

3/29/2011 9:42:05 PM
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WMI/CP station

In the interest of keeping this thread on the topic of the building sale, I'd appreciate if a new thread could be started on the very important separate subject of language, policy, programs, etc.  
 
Also just to clarify/confirm, this is a building lease not a purchase. The building was purchased in 2009 by a numbered company involving Winnipeg developer John Hooker and WMI will be their tenant later this year.  
 
Reading back in the news, when the old Convergys building was sold in the fall WMI also had a bid in to co-lease it along with ACC. 5+ months later it looks like they've found an alternative that IMO couldn't be a better fit for them.

Exhausted

3/29/2011 9:51:05 PM
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your taxes

the building rental and the services offered by the program being run out of it is being paid by your Manitoba taxes. there may be Federal taxes as well. but from an article in March 2010 it states..... the total support from Manitoba Labour and Immigration and Citizenship and Immigration Canada is increased to nearly $1.7 million for the Westman region, a 19 per cent increase over last year.  
 
so everyone is basically paying for the rental.  
 
and it is nice to see the building being fixed and put to use instead of falling down and having to be demolished.

wheatcityfan

3/29/2011 9:55:02 PM
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Dec 2005
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Downtown developments

I also noticed activity on Rosser near CIBC. Seems someone has moved into there as well. Nice to see movement in the building downtown


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