Just got back from fishing the Assiniboine today... Why do the white pailers have to keep every fish they catch. Not only is 30 goldeye over limit but to keep 30 fish that are all 5-6-7 inches. Guy showed me and told me they're suckers, uh no.... They're juvenile goldeye you can tell by the mouth and dorsal fin.  
 
Another group not do bad released all their fish, on to the shore and would walk away. Come back and kick them into he river... Geez  
 
Cleaned a bunch of discarded line, new blue/purple latex gloves, and other trash and called it a day.  
 
What a disgrace.

agreed.  

The quiet one said "Just got back from fishing the Assiniboine today... Why do the white pailers have to keep every fish they catch. Not only is 30 goldeye over limit but to keep 30 fish that are all 5-6-7 inches. Guy showed me and told me they're suckers, uh no.... They're juvenile goldeye you can tell by the mouth and dorsal fin.     Another group not do bad released all their fish, on to the shore and would walk away. Come back and kick them into he river... Geez     Cleaned a bunch of discarded line, new blue/purple latex gloves, and other trash and called it a day.     What a disgrace. "

Im not a fisherman, what does the term "white pailers" mean??  
I presume it is NOT a complimentary term, by the disgraceful antics you have described & attributed to them!!  
Im just curious?

rkd5.9 said "    The quiet one said "Just got back from fishing the Assiniboine today... Why do the white pailers have to keep every fish they catch. Not only is 30 goldeye over limit but to keep 30 fish that are all 5-6-7 inches. Guy showed me and told me they're suckers, uh no.... They're juvenile goldeye you can tell by the mouth and dorsal fin.     Another group not do bad released all their fish, on to the shore and would walk away. Come back and kick them into he river... Geez     Cleaned a bunch of discarded line, new blue/purple latex gloves, and other trash and called it a day.     What a disgrace. " Im not a fisherman, what does the term "white pailers" mean??   I presume it is NOT a complimentary term, by the disgraceful antics you have described & attributed to them!!   Im just curious? "

I'm going to assume a "white pailer" is a term for a person who has a huge white pail sitting beside them while they fish. when they catch a fish, it goes into the white pail while they continue on with throwing their lines back out into the water.

You would think that the river should be patrolled by the authorities and a stop put to the abuse of the fish population.

There are NO Natural resources officers in Brandon-two overworked NCO's in Virden and two in Carberry, I think two or so in Neepawa. The NDP government has cut back so much it is impossible for them to cover the area. It is up to the public to call the TIPS line and help them out and ourselves at the same time. maybe a call to your local MLA would be in order to.

it is time to go the pailers and just take the fish and throw it back in the water.  
I mean you can call the authorities and nothing will happen or you could be proactive.  
I know i get flamed now but i have my flame retardant undies on and i stay behind what i say. If the authorities don't respond to the shameless fishing methods maybe they will respond to a shuffle.  
And no I am not a racist, I am an immigrant myself who was scared shxtless when the game warden came and inspected my boat, even i know i did not fish over quota and had my license.  
I am just getting tiered of all the immigrants who come here and don't have to speak English where i had to proof that i can read, write and speak, or can do illegal act where i was told i have to go back were i came from if I break the law.  
 
Edited by bookwood, 2012-06-10 18:15:09

The quiet one said "I have two suggestions....     Next council meeting could someone ask if BPS is responsible for management of our river within city limits.... seeing how wps does. I'd go but am working nightshift. Put the offenders in nice shiny bracelets.     Would the prov/city be open to a citizens or volunteer deputy type patrols, seeing we are so short of NROs     p.s. thank you maple leaf for bringing such fine upstanding people to our shores.... Litterally             Edited by The quiet one, 2012-06-10 19:05:06"

Took me awhile to find and read but if I'm reading it right BPS does have the authority under MB law  
 
http://web2.gov.mb.ca/laws/statutes/ccsm/f090e.php  
 
And to the people who say they don't know that they are breaking the law.... In Canada ignorance of the law is no excuse.

I found the solution it's phone number is 729-2345

Ryan, You are right, the people that know they are breaking the law tend to be sneaky about it.  
 
Quiet one..I don't think calling the police is the answer, education is. What ever happened to face to face conversations with people? What a bunch of chickens we have turned into...if I have a real issue with something I will deal with it and actually talk to the person like an intelligent adult, not run home and cry over my keyboard.

If we don't stand up and talk about it, the abuse of our resources, will continue.

What can of action is anyone going to take? I am not a fisherman but this is not right. You don't want the rivers and lakes stripped of fish. Education is key, some people plead ignorance of laws, perhaps with their licenses they should be issued the laws in their own language. If the fisheries cannot be there to monitor then this is what they should do. Come on fishing people make it happen!

Mb supports two official languages English and French. The guides are available in both.  
 
And really how much meat are you going to get from 5-6-7 inch fish? Next to nothing....What a waste.  
 
 
 
Edited by The quiet one, 2012-06-11 08:56:56

The quiet one said "Mb supports two official languages English and French. The guides are available in both.     And really how much meat are you going to get from 5-6-7 inch fish? Next to nothing....What a waste.         Edited by The quiet one, 2012-06-11 08:56:56"

I believe retailers selling licences are required to give a copy of the regs with every licence.  

I was fishing the southern side of the 1st street dam yesterday and witnessed a blue latex gloved man, catch a small bullhead, instead of putting him back in the water, he threw it on the ground. Myself and 2 friends were there, and we watched as he let it sit there and flop around and throw his line back into the water, after a couple minutes I went over, picked it up, said my friends wanted to see it, and brought him over and released the fish. It is extremely annoying and frustrating watching people do this, i do not keep many fish for food, im there to fish because i just love the outdoors and that tug on the line, plus the bragging rights from time to time. And to watch others completely disrespect our natural resources, is completely selfish. I love to fish and someday hopefully my children will love to fish, and everytime i see something like this happen all i can think about is if this continue for years to come, what kind of fishery are we going to have? Whether it be for food, or for recreation. Something needs to be done about it. If you're going to abuse something that many people spend their well earned free time doing, and ruin it for them. Then dont do it. Either respect the river and the fish, or do not use it as a way to fill the dinner table. Manitoba has one of the best fisheries in the country, but it will not be that way for long if stuff like this continue. That fish might of one day been food for another fish, and it will be apart of the birth of new fish. Its a cycle, disrupt the cycle and things will go south very quick. I know it was just one fish, but i've read lots of stories that others are doing it too. I'm not the confrontational type, I'd hope that people would have the decency to do whats right, but its getting hard to ignore this and is trying my patience.

I cannot point fingers at all the immigrants. Last week someone caught a small sturgeon and this out of countrier had his daughter fishing with him. When she asked about the fish, he looked at his daughter and said "That is a very special fish, you cannot keep or hurt that fish. You know your red book you have at home about all the animals in danger, when we go home, look in the book and you can read about it". So i cant say that all these "white-pailers" are bad, i was very happily surprised at his message to his young daughter.

That blue gloves automatically means maple leaf. The Brandon RHA uses them, shops use them, I even carry a box just in case... You can even buy them all Wal-Mart. So blue gloves narrowing it down doesn't really help at all. Next time you're in wal-Mart, pick a box up for a few bucks & use them to clean your house instead of the big floppy yellow gloves. Just an FYI

The quiet one said "Mb supports two official languages English and French. The guides are available in both.     And really how much meat are you going to get from 5-6-7 inch fish? Next to nothing....What a waste.         Edited by The quiet one, 2012-06-11 08:56:56"

With all the immigration we have seen it is only sensible to provide the rules regarding quantity of each species that you can catch, that way no one can plead ignorance! I have asked people not to block my driveway and they just look at me like they don't understand. So would this not be a positive action to pursue?

Johnbisonbear said "    The quiet one said "Mb supports two official languages English and French. The guides are available in both.     And really how much meat are you going to get from 5-6-7 inch fish? Next to nothing....What a waste.         Edited by The quiet one, 2012-06-11 08:56:56" With all the immigration we have seen it is only sensible to provide the rules regarding quantity of each species that you can catch, that way no one can plead ignorance! I have asked people not to block my driveway and they just look at me like they don't understand. So would this not be a positive action to pursue? "

Who pays? Every store that sells fishing licenses would have to stock how many regulations in how many languages? Why can't the union teach them (they are always putting on classes) the rules and regulations. Funny how they are taught what to use, where to fish, most have a license, yet when they get caught with over limit or using barbed hooks they plead they don't understand english. I say print on the licenses a little check box or place to initial that they understand at least limits and no barbs and have the license holder initial that they understand.  
 
Edited by Fishin Guy, 2012-06-11 12:58:31

Language can be a barrier, sure, but when lecturing the white pails - do you ever bring out the guide book?  
 
I'm sure there's a way to motion that this is the reason that there's rules to follow.....  
 
Otherwise, I'm keeping the TIPS line at the ready if they blow me off.

Well said!!

I enjoy going out fishing here in Brandon,its very sad to see the fish they leave laying around,i do see them taking more then what they are allowed,we always remind them of the rules,i fish everywhere here in town and its always the "white pailers" who are doing this..trust me i see it all the time and im out there all the time fishing.

Fishin Guy said "    Johnbisonbear said "    The quiet one said "Mb supports two official languages English and French. The guides are available in both.     And really how much meat are you going to get from 5-6-7 inch fish? Next to nothing....What a waste.         Edited by The quiet one, 2012-06-11 08:56:56" With all the immigration we have seen it is only sensible to provide the rules regarding quantity of each species that you can catch, that way no one can plead ignorance! I have asked people not to block my driveway and they just look at me like they don't understand. So would this not be a positive action to pursue? " Who pays? Every store that sells fishing licenses would have to stock how many regulations in how many languages? Why can't the union teach them (they are always putting on classes) the rules and regulations. Funny how they are taught what to use, where to fish, most have a license, yet when they get caught with over limit or using barbed hooks they plead they don't understand english. I say print on the licenses a little check box or place to initial that they understand at least limits and no barbs and have the license holder initial that they understand.     Edited by Fishin Guy, 2012-06-11 12:58:31"

Let the Feds pay its their jurisdiction isn't it? Besides with all the cut backs that they are making elsewhere they should have plenty of money for this matter!

Another group not do bad released all their fish, on to the shore and would walk away. Come back and kick them into the river... Geez  
That's a vivid description and sums up so much about modern Canada.