who in Brandon thinks that the student who hit a fine arts teacher deserves to get charged or suspended

Charged as well as expelled.. she can get her grad 12 threw corispndence if she so chooses..

What total disrespect this person has. She should be both charged and suspended. I see she's got a court date lined up, according to BPS media reports.  
 
What an idiotic move on her part.  
 
http://notes.brandon.ca/bpsmediarelease  
 
Assault With a Weapon Prior / Suspect Arrested  
 
At 8:46 PM on Thursday, a male teacher at Crocus Plains Regional Secondary School reported that he had been assaulted at the school by a female student on June 11th, 2012. The victim had allegedly been struck in the upper body with a guitar during the incident and received minor injuries. The female suspect was located and arrested. A 16 year old Brandon girl is to appear in court on July 10th, 2012, on a charge of assault with a weapon.  
 
 
 
And not to mention wrecking a completely good guitar. Lol.  
 
 
 
 
Edited by GC44, 2012-06-15 10:54:53

total disrespectfull attitude! Send her to a military camp for the summer. **Shakes head** whats up with our youth these days?

I hit my high school French teacher...Punched him right in the jaw and knocked him to the floor. I should have kicked him while he was down....Trust me, he had it coming.  
 
 
He never made a complaint because he knew he deserved it.  
 
 
There's probably another side to this story.

My grade 10 law teacher used to walk around with this pointer thing in his class. Now that I think about it I recall him telling us it was actually a sawed off golf tee.  
 
I don't remember exactly what I was doing. Perhaps talking or not listening...Anyways, all of a sudden I get this "whack!" on the back of my shoulder.  
 
He hit me with that pointer thing! I know he bopped me harder than he thought, cause his face went bright red and appologized right away... I think the look I gave him was enough to suffice as punishment. lol! But the rest of the class was shocked. I don't think anyone said anything about it to any other teacher/principal etc. As I never heard anymore of it. I wasn't pissed off or anything. But I'm sure I could have gotten him into some trouble over it. lol This story just reminded me of that is all.  
 
hah, maybe that's why I got such a good mark in that class. ;P

I think she should be expelled, but in any case, school systems are getting to the point of we will let them get away with anything just to pass them through. Kids now a days think they own the world and everyone has to do what they say. Get over it, real life is not fair.  
 
Edited by DylanD, 2012-06-15 11:41:04

I don't have it nearby, but the paper said she was going to do a presentation, and she was getting frustrated cause the teacher was taking too long discussing something first. So she walked out in anger. He went to follow her and she whacked the teacher over the head with the guitar.  
 
Maybe she didn't like his tone.  

Maybe you all should get ALL the facts first. What this girl did was VERY wrong, however an actual account of what went down would be starters. The account the Brandon Sun had yesterday was those of student using heresay. Those were students that were out at smokers corner, that the Brandon Sun confronted for information. No one from the actual school division commented on what actually happened.  
This is actually a VERY nice girl, who has been bullied and targeted tremendously for years. Maybe she finally cracked. It doesn't give her the right to do what she did at all. However maybe it would give you insight.  
If they feel charges are necessary, yes she should have them. But don't judge her and send her off as a write off without hearing the whole story, and knowing what kind of person she normally is and what she has been going through.

not sure what happened but it sounds like she was charged and i would think a suspension would be mandatory ?

But two words came to mind when I first heard about this..  
 
EL-KABONG!!!  
 
Anyone else remember that?!  

Maybe sending her to military camp will help her stand up for herself instead of letting people bully her. :p  
 
There are always 3 sides to every story. Hopefully it's all sorted out in the end.

ScarletAngel said " Maybe sending her to military camp will help her stand up for herself instead of letting people bully her. :p     There are always 3 sides to every story. Hopefully it's all sorted out in the end. "

"Let" people bully her? Realy, wow, have you ever been bullied? It's not something that people "let" happen.  
 
Violence against a teacher should be mandatory suspension, the only exception I can think of is if a sexual advance was made, but that was not the case here.

unless you are in iminent danger.

TDL said "Maybe you all should get ALL the facts first. What this girl did was VERY wrong, however an actual account of what went down would be starters. The account the Brandon Sun had yesterday was those of student using heresay. Those were students that were out at smokers corner, that the Brandon Sun confronted for information. No one from the actual school division commented on what actually happened.   This is actually a VERY nice girl, who has been bullied and targeted tremendously for years. Maybe she finally cracked. It doesn't give her the right to do what she did at all. However maybe it would give you insight.   If they feel charges are necessary, yes she should have them. But don't judge her and send her off as a write off without hearing the whole story, and knowing what kind of person she normally is and what she has been going through. "

She may very well be a nice girl, but there is no clear reason to whack a teacher over the head if you're angry at the world.  
 
That's not nice and totally disrespectful.  
 
 
 

ScarletAngel said "My grade 10 law teacher used to walk around with this pointer thing in his class. Now that I think about it I recall him telling us it was actually a sawed off golf tee.     I don't remember exactly what I was doing. Perhaps talking or not listening...Anyways, all of a sudden I get this "whack!" on the back of my shoulder.     He hit me with that pointer thing! I know he bopped me harder than he thought, cause his face went bright red and appologized right away... I think the look I gave him was enough to suffice as punishment. lol! But the rest of the class was shocked. I don't think anyone said anything about it to any other teacher/principal etc. As I never heard anymore of it. I wasn't pissed off or anything. But I'm sure I could have gotten him into some trouble over it. lol This story just reminded me of that is all.     hah, maybe that's why I got such a good mark in that class. ;P "

I totally know who you are talking about! I remember if someone fell asleep in class, he would slam it down hard on their desk. He would also hit hats off the boys who wore them.

And back to the original topic. No this girl should not have hit her teacher and should be suspended and even charged. However, I see violent students in many early years classrooms, most of them have to have an EA with them at all times. Think of when these students grow up, stories like this might just be regular occurrences. That's a scary thought!

RumelyDude said "But two words came to mind when I first heard about this..     EL-KABONG!!!     Anyone else remember that?!   "

LOL, YES!  
 
Ok, I think I just dated myself by admiting I remember that. Now I will really date myself by making a reference to Double J (wrestler) LOL.  
 
Anyhow, enough of that. I don't think what this student did was right by any means. I am totally against violence. But an interesting point was made. There are always 3 sides to every story. In this case:  
Teacher's Side  
Student's Side  
Bastardized version somewhere in the middle of what REALLY happened.  
 
Now, I am not saying this teacher lied, I am saying that in the ehat of the moment, sometimes we forget key details. Either way, I hope the matter gets investigated fully and the appropriate actions are taken against the appropriate people.  
 
IMO

She deservs to be suspended , teachers and most adults are held in low esteem by the majority of youth today.

CMDT said "And back to the original topic. No this girl should not have hit her teacher and should be suspended and even charged. However, I see violent students in many early years classrooms, most of them have to have an EA with them at all times. Think of when these students grow up, stories like this might just be regular occurrences. That's a scary thought! "

That most of these kids have an individual E.A. may be part of the problem, they are not treated as normal, the are special and allowed to cause problems within the classroom.

TDL said "Maybe you all should get ALL the facts first. What this girl did was VERY wrong, however an actual account of what went down would be starters. The account the Brandon Sun had yesterday was those of student using heresay. Those were students that were out at smokers corner, that the Brandon Sun confronted for information. No one from the actual school division commented on what actually happened.   This is actually a VERY nice girl, who has been bullied and targeted tremendously for years. Maybe she finally cracked. It doesn't give her the right to do what she did at all. However maybe it would give you insight.   If they feel charges are necessary, yes she should have them. But don't judge her and send her off as a write off without hearing the whole story, and knowing what kind of person she normally is and what she has been going through. "

Nice girls don't resort to physical violence under any circumstances. I hope the teacher decides to press charges, to set an example that this behaviour will not be tolerated.

Daphne said "    TDL said "Maybe you all should get ALL the facts first. What this girl did was VERY wrong, however an actual account of what went down would be starters. The account the Brandon Sun had yesterday was those of student using heresay. Those were students that were out at smokers corner, that the Brandon Sun confronted for information. No one from the actual school division commented on what actually happened.   This is actually a VERY nice girl, who has been bullied and targeted tremendously for years. Maybe she finally cracked. It doesn't give her the right to do what she did at all. However maybe it would give you insight.   If they feel charges are necessary, yes she should have them. But don't judge her and send her off as a write off without hearing the whole story, and knowing what kind of person she normally is and what she has been going through. " Nice girls don't resort to physical violence under any circumstances. I hope the teacher decides to press charges, to set an example that this behaviour will not be tolerated. "

Actually it can happen. I am not saying there should not be charges, or suspension. I believe I said she should have them. I also said what she did was very wrong. However an actual account of what happened has not been released. The info released in yesterday's paper is heresay. Especially why they felt it happened, no one knows yet (except that student & teacher).  
I don't condone what she did whatsoever. But just pointing out, she has no history of violent behaviour, and has been a very nice girl. Nice girls can snap too. She has been tormented very much over the years by her peers. I personally have no idea what actually happened, and what finally pushed her to the brink.  
But she should not be written off completely as a damaged individual without chance of redemption.  
I agree she needs to be punished...but wait for the full story first. I'd have rather she acted on those that bullied her instead though.  
 
Edited by TDL, 2012-06-15 13:18:02

hermione said "    ScarletAngel said " Maybe sending her to military camp will help her stand up for herself instead of letting people bully her. :p     There are always 3 sides to every story. Hopefully it's all sorted out in the end. " "Let" people bully her? Realy, wow, have you ever been bullied? It's not something that people "let" happen.     Violence against a teacher should be mandatory suspension, the only exception I can think of is if a sexual advance was made, but that was not the case here. "

I was making light of the situation...  
 
and for the record, Yes I have been bullied. And I was able to get over it. Hopefully she can too.  
 
Edited by ScarletAngel, 2012-06-15 13:23:31

TDL said "    Daphne said "    TDL said "Maybe you all should get ALL the facts first. What this girl did was VERY wrong, however an actual account of what went down would be starters. The account the Brandon Sun had yesterday was those of student using heresay. Those were students that were out at smokers corner, that the Brandon Sun confronted for information. No one from the actual school division commented on what actually happened.   This is actually a VERY nice girl, who has been bullied and targeted tremendously for years. Maybe she finally cracked. It doesn't give her the right to do what she did at all. However maybe it would give you insight.   If they feel charges are necessary, yes she should have them. But don't judge her and send her off as a write off without hearing the whole story, and knowing what kind of person she normally is and what she has been going through. " Nice girls don't resort to physical violence under any circumstances. I hope the teacher decides to press charges, to set an example that this behaviour will not be tolerated. " Actually it can happen. I am not saying there should not be charges, or suspension. I believe I said she should have them. I also said what she did was very wrong. However an actual account of what happened has not been released. The info released in yesterday's paper is heresay. Especially why they felt it happened, no one knows yet (except that student & teacher).   I don't condone what she did whatsoever. But just pointing out, she has no history of violent behaviour, and has been a very nice girl. Nice girls can snap too. She has been tormented very much over the years by her peers. I personally have no idea what actually happened, and what finally pushed her to the brink.   But she should not be written off completely as a damaged individual without chance of redemption.   I agree she needs to be punished...but wait for the full story first. I'd have rather she acted on those that bullied her instead though.     Edited by TDL, 2012-06-15 13:18:02"

Fair enough to hear the true story first.  
 
Having said that, there is a moral and ethical compass that most people have when, even having been pushed to the max (if it applies here), there is a known difference between right and wrong.  
 
The bottom line is that any teenaged kid and we all know it, emotional feelings can overtake the moral compass, but where will this lead to now if there was previous bullying? It's just bound to get worse now or furthermore, she'll not be able to face her schoolmates again.  
 
Tough lesson for her with court charges, but this is the way the world works.  
 
Will wait for the full story, but I can't imagine the level of justification of this act of violence on a teacher, especially if it was just lashing out at a person of authority who happened to be nearby.  
 
No, I am not a teacher, nor have any affiliation with anyone in teaching.  
 
 
 
Edited by GC44, 2012-06-15 13:30:50

He was a good teacher, and we did get along. I was just one of the more "outspoken" students in his class. I felt my situation was more funny than anything. Mostly because of the look of realization on his face after he whacked me. lol!  
 
I swear I saw the reflection in his eyes as he saw himself being flushed down a toilet. lmao!

how hard she actually hit him? Did the guitar explode on contact? Or maybe she turned around too quickly and bopped him gently?  
 
I guess we'll have to wait till July 10th to get the whole story...

ScarletAngel said "how hard she actually hit him? Did the guitar explode on contact? Or maybe she turned around too quickly and bopped him gently?     I guess we'll have to wait till July 10th to get the whole story... "

there would have been a media release and BPS report if it was a gentle and accidental bop. An outburst towards a teacher shouldn't be tolerated in any circumstance.  
 
 
 
 
Edited by GC44, 2012-06-15 13:46:00

but the point of that post was no one knows what actually happened.  
 
man everyone is so serious today...IT'S FRIDAY! :D Be HAPPY!  
 
Edited by ScarletAngel, 2012-06-15 13:45:25

under no circumstances is it ok for a student to hit a teacher on the side of the head with a guitar.  
 
What I don't understand is why all these schools let kids bring this kind of stuff into the classroom to start with. the paper said that she always has her guitar with her everywhere she goes.  
 
I hope the teacher is ok and I certainly think the student needs to write a letter of appology. I should be interested to see what happens when she appears in court.

I read it was in the upper body. not the head...