REALLY?!?!!  
 
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/19/luka-rocco-magnotta-pleads-not-guilty-to-first-degree-murder-will-undergo-psychiatric-evaluation/  
 
Luka Rocco Magnotta pleads "Not Gulity"

Wow. I truly do not know what to think after all of the events that have transpired ...  
 
My thoughts and prayers go out to Jun Lin's family.  

The punishment for 1st degree murder is a life sentence with no chance of parole for 25 years. That is true whether the accused pleads guilty or pleads not guilty and is convicted at trial.  
 
It is extremely rare for an accused who is charged with 1st degree murder to plead guilty because there would be nothing to gain, and nothing to lose by going to trial.  
 
As well, I think it's obvious that this guy relishes the spotlight. Imagine the media circus involved in this matter when the trial comes around.

In my opinion..it will go like this...the taxpayer will spend tens of millions to take this guy to trial...we will pay for the finest legal minds in the country to represent him...the victim,as usual,will be completely forgotten,he will get off on an insanity plea...spend a few years in a mental hospital..under personal care...then be released like Vince Li when the experts say he is just fine.....ho hum...same old Canadian legal system...

west said "In my opinion..it will go like this...the taxpayer will spend tens of millions to take this guy to trial...we will pay for the finest legal minds in the country to represent him...the victim,as usual,will be completely forgotten,he will get off on an insanity plea...spend a few years in a mental hospital..under personal care...then be released like Vince Li when the experts say he is just fine.....ho hum...same old Canadian legal system... "

Basically , I think thats a reasonably accurate forecast.

It will be interesting to see how they go about finding an impartial jury!  
 
I can't believe there are many people that have not seen or been influenced by the press coverage of this crime.

littleolme said "REALLY?!?!!     http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/19/luka-rocco-magnotta-pleads-not-guilty-to-first-degree-murder-will-undergo-psychiatric-evaluation/     Luka Rocco Magnotta pleads "Not Gulity" "

It sounds like the poster is surprised at this plea?  
 
It's just the way our justice system works. Unfortunately.  
 
Innocent until proven guilty and further psychiatric evaluations, so the defense team can gain notoriety and exposure for a high profile case, while the accused may get a lesser sentence in a psych unit, where he can walk the peaceful grounds, get 3 meals a day and be under a fairly nice umbrella.  
 
Sounds like the criminal justice system to me.  
 
It's too bad.  
 

This will be REAL interesting to see the tactics used, already they reserve the right to call/opt for a psychological evaluation.  
That's a delay tactic at the very least, adds more media frenzy & lessens the chances of finding an impartial jury.

he is not going to be having any fun before his trial. In solitary with no internet.... He won`t be able to follow his own press. " wonder if he thought about that? He will never get a NCR He knows right from wrong. He`s going to end up in a Max prison in A single cell and locked down 23 hours out of the day. He might have acess to a news paper but will never ever be online and thats what is going to kill him. There is no way he can self promote himself or even check an e-mail....

west said "In my opinion..it will go like this...the taxpayer will spend tens of millions to take this guy to trial...we will pay for the finest legal minds in the country to represent him...the victim,as usual,will be completely forgotten,he will get off on an insanity plea...spend a few years in a mental hospital..under personal care...then be released like Vince Li when the experts say he is just fine.....ho hum...same old Canadian legal system... "

do not get what being mentally ill is . There is no why this man is going to be able to plea insanity . He new what he was doing at the time of the crime ,he video taped it and took the time to mail the body parts . Someone that is insane does not have clear enough thoughts to be able to do what this man did . Everyone really needs some education because there is a big difference between someone that has Schizophrenia and someone that is a psychopath .

I have to hope that no matter what happens there will be justice in this situation.

What is used to figure out whether he is "insane" or not? I think we can all agree he is not "normal" at all.  
 
What "sane" person would do such a thing?

Joy said "    west said "In my opinion..it will go like this...the taxpayer will spend tens of millions to take this guy to trial...we will pay for the finest legal minds in the country to represent him...the victim,as usual,will be completely forgotten,he will get off on an insanity plea...spend a few years in a mental hospital..under personal care...then be released like Vince Li when the experts say he is just fine.....ho hum...same old Canadian legal system... " do not get what being mentally ill is . There is no why this man is going to be able to plea insanity . He new what he was doing at the time of the crime ,he video taped it and took the time to mail the body parts . Someone that is insane does not have clear enough thoughts to be able to do what this man did . Everyone really needs some education because there is a big difference between someone that has Schizophrenia and someone that is a psychopath . "

Are you saying that a psychopath doesn't have a mental illness?

BullyBreed said "    Joy said "    west said "In my opinion..it will go like this...the taxpayer will spend tens of millions to take this guy to trial...we will pay for the finest legal minds in the country to represent him...the victim,as usual,will be completely forgotten,he will get off on an insanity plea...spend a few years in a mental hospital..under personal care...then be released like Vince Li when the experts say he is just fine.....ho hum...same old Canadian legal system... " do not get what being mentally ill is . There is no why this man is going to be able to plea insanity . He new what he was doing at the time of the crime ,he video taped it and took the time to mail the body parts . Someone that is insane does not have clear enough thoughts to be able to do what this man did . Everyone really needs some education because there is a big difference between someone that has Schizophrenia and someone that is a psychopath . " Are you saying that a psychopath doesn't have a mental illness? "

good question?  
Its that old "fine line" !!!

That's why they call it Not Criminally Responsible in Canada. You have be a little "insane" to do what this man did.  
 
Being not criminally responsible would mean that he had no clue due to a mental illness that what he was doing was morally wrong and illegal.  
 
With how all the events have transpired, I would bet the farm that even if the defense do go that route, it'll never work.  
 
The not guilty is just a hail mary, hoping to get something less than the 5 charges he's facing.

....innocent until proven guilty. That's how the system works. It, for the most part,is a great system.  
 
I have no doubt justice will prevail.

public money has been spent on him already. It could be taken care of for a lot less. Hell, I will donate the bullet.

rkd5.9 said "    BullyBreed said "    Joy said "    west said "In my opinion..it will go like this...the taxpayer will spend tens of millions to take this guy to trial...we will pay for the finest legal minds in the country to represent him...the victim,as usual,will be completely forgotten,he will get off on an insanity plea...spend a few years in a mental hospital..under personal care...then be released like Vince Li when the experts say he is just fine.....ho hum...same old Canadian legal system... " do not get what being mentally ill is . There is no why this man is going to be able to plea insanity . He new what he was doing at the time of the crime ,he video taped it and took the time to mail the body parts . Someone that is insane does not have clear enough thoughts to be able to do what this man did . Everyone really needs some education because there is a big difference between someone that has Schizophrenia and someone that is a psychopath . " Are you saying that a psychopath doesn't have a mental illness? " good question?   Its that old "fine line" !!! "

it is a mental illness ,but they know at the time of the crime that what they are doing is wrong . They pre plan the events before they act on it and they do it all for fame . There is no cure because it is a personality disorder , this is just what I have been saying you need to be educated on mental illness before you group people together .He only committed the crime to feed his own sick need to be famous and to have attention brought on himself and also by pleading guilty he will fill his urge for fame longer by keeping his crime on the news longer. Someone that commits murder when they have schizophrenia they see things and voices in there head tell them to do it . When they are under psychiatric medication they do not hear voices and if they had committed a crime they would have great remorse over what they did . Magnotta new what he was doing and will have no remorse for doing what he did.He will go to jail !!!!

F8 said " public money has been spent on him already. It could be taken care of for a lot less. Hell, I will donate the bullet. "

i had also thought that it would be nice if he suffered an "accident" in prison and didn't cost taxpayers a dime.

Should have done an Osama Bin Laden and dumped him over the Atlantic Ocean

Ive never been a huge capitol punishment supporter, BUT maybe its time for an attitude change???  
But I guess that's a whole different discussion  
 
Edited by rkd5.9, 2012-06-19 21:48:53

F8 said " public money has been spent on him already. It could be taken care of for a lot less. Hell, I will donate the bullet. "

i couldnt agree more! It would save a hell of a lot of money. I was hoping he would "fall" out of the plane on the way home

Psychopaths do have a mental illness, but they do not fall into the realm of insanity for criminal purposes. The prisons are filled with psychopaths who went through the legal process.

All psychopaths and sociopaths are mentally ill, however, not all people with mental illness are psychopaths or sociopaths.

Where is the off switch for the Media Circus?  
 
All news agencies should report the news but only show the victim's face. Refer to the psychopath as "the person who killed ... and the victim's name". This may stop the fame that is being directed towards the criminal rather than the victim.

katwalk1909 said "Where is the off switch for the Media Circus?     All news agencies should report the news but only show the victim's face. Refer to the psychopath as "the person who killed ... and the victim's name". This may stop the fame that is being directed towards the criminal rather than the victim. "

I think you have asked a much larger question? Its very similar to: WHY dont BAD news sell , but good does not?  
OR , why if you are an NHL hockey player , you likely have a sign outside your home town, but if you discovered a cure for Cancer , you would have NOTHING there!  
Sorry to get off topic!  

Hang him... Period. Without a doubt he did the crime. I believe when there is no doubt,its a simple solution. Save on the taxpayer.

littleolme said "REALLY?!?!!     http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/19/luka-rocco-magnotta-pleads-not-guilty-to-first-degree-murder-will-undergo-psychiatric-evaluation/     Luka Rocco Magnotta pleads "Not Gulity" "

...being white and his victim non-white just increased his chance of being found guilty of a lesser charge.

Spaghetti Monster said "....innocent until proven guilty. That's how the system works. It, for the most part,is a great system.     I have no doubt justice will prevail. "

its amazing that in this country- if you murder someone -you are innocent until proven guilty, but if you have 1 beer or 1 glass of wine to many while out for a meal and get charged for impaired driving- you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. as you begin serving your punishment before you ever go to trial.

To anyone that seen the video... did you actually see his face in the video?  
 
As I hear that you don't ever "see" his face, so I am thinking that he will try to say it wasn't him?