| Sandra O |  8/4/2012 12:28:31 AM | Member since: Aug 2009 | | Total posts:76 |
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Can anyone explain to me why the TC Hwy in Manitoba is 100/Kms when even New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, home of blind corners, steep hills and turns with rock face on one side and steep cliff on the other side...are all 110/Kms ? Ontario, same thing, Saskatchewan is mostly 110 to my recall. I have lived in MB my whole life and I can't figure out what's worth slowing down to see, lol.
Does anyone know if there is a REAL reason? |
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| Evergreen |  8/4/2012 12:35:33 AM | Member since: Jan 2012 | | Total posts:38 |
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i have no idea why speed limit so low in Canada.in Europe some highways have no speed limit.some 130km/h.for sport bikes up to 240km/h.speed do not kills.stupid drivers are more dangerous!!! |
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| aarman4 |  8/4/2012 12:50:18 AM | Member since: Mar 2009 | | Total posts:120 |
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It might have more to do with what else shares the road in this province... the difference in speed is what is dangerous, not speed in itself, and I share the TransCanada on a daily basis with Combines and tractors and Ag-transport, as well as deer, moose, skunks, and of course, a boat load of foolish drivers, many with green-lettered plates on their cars(although they're not the danger, just dangerous). I see enough unsafe farm vehicles going a speed of less than 90 km/hr that I cannot fathom driving fast near them, or why they are even on the road..... As long as this province continues it's rediculous safety check mandate(and it is VERY rediculous), and the highways including the transcanada continue to be maintained in various states of disrepair, I doubt we will see a realistic change in the speed limit.
In my opinion, the speed limit should be 130km/hr, but that is with yearly safety checks for ALL vehicles, and a ban on Ag vehicles from the TC. |
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| Your not sorry! |  8/4/2012 1:08:44 AM | Member since: Sep 2007 | | Total posts:776 |
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Paved shoulders. Once Manitoba paves the shoulders on trans Canada then we will be at 110kms also |
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| Animallover |  8/4/2012 4:10:22 AM | Member since: May 2012 | | Total posts:24 |
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Latley I find myself behind people who are doing 85-90km grrrr those are the ones that cause accidents and it keeps on becoming more frequent police need to fine these people I say there more at a risk of causing problems on the road |
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| Truthie |  8/4/2012 5:02:08 AM | Member since: Jun 2009 | | Total posts:701 |
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| | | Your not sorry! said "Paved shoulders. Once Manitoba paves the shoulders on trans Canada then we will be at 110kms also " |
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This is why they've slowly been working on resurfacing the whole transcanada and paving the shoulders. 75 south of Winnipeg will also go to 110. So far only a few miles of the 75 north of the US border has been bumped up to 110.
If we're really gonna complain about speed limits why don't we wonder why the TC isn't 121/kph like the interstates are in the US? |
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| Yep |  8/4/2012 8:16:43 AM | Member since: Sep 2007 | | Total posts:1106 |
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The shoulders were paved 3 years ago to Douglas from Virden! The speed was increased from MB/SK border to Virden at that time and was supposed to increase when the shoulders were paved and it has never happened. So I am guessing they are now waiting on the resurfacing of the stretch of highway that is bad now (the part they milled a bit to not be so slippery).
The way they are going on it, it will be another few years until we see it increased! If this was in or around Winnipeg though it would have been done immediately! |
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| Terry9366 |  8/4/2012 8:38:48 AM | Member since: Oct 2009 | | Total posts:1184 |
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| | Yep said "The shoulders were paved 3 years ago to Douglas from Virden! The speed was increased from MB/SK border to Virden at that time and was supposed to increase when the shoulders were paved and it has never happened. So I am guessing they are now waiting on the resurfacing of the stretch of highway that is bad now (the part they milled a bit to not be so slippery).
The way they are going on it, it will be another few years until we see it increased! If this was in or around Winnipeg though it would have been done immediately! " |
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so than why is the only part of the TC that is already 110 out at the ManSask border than and not at Winnipeg? It is because it was the last section built to 4 lane, had the curves adjusted, ditch slopes updated, paved shoulders and all the other safety requirements for higher speeds incorporated. |
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| jason d. |  8/4/2012 8:39:55 AM | Member since: Sep 2008 | | Total posts:222 |
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| | Yep said "The shoulders were paved 3 years ago to Douglas from Virden! The speed was increased from MB/SK border to Virden at that time and was supposed to increase when the shoulders were paved and it has never happened. So I am guessing they are now waiting on the resurfacing of the stretch of highway that is bad now (the part they milled a bit to not be so slippery).
The way they are going on it, it will be another few years until we see it increased! If this was in or around Winnipeg though it would have been done immediately! " |
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what do you mean "IF this was in or around Winnipeg"? the transcanada goes right through winnipeg and the speed limit is still 100 there as well. |
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| *Mittens* |  8/4/2012 8:45:01 AM | Member since: Mar 2008 | | Total posts:5282 |
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What does it really matter. People go whatever speed they want to on the highway anyway. And if you go around 110, USUALLY Police won't care anyway. |
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| Adam |  8/4/2012 8:52:10 AM | Member since: Mar 2005 | | Total posts:11914 |
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Added a link below to the press release from 2009 when they upped that stretch to 110 and another on Hwy 75.
It was three years ago, but this was the quote from Infrastructure and Transportation Minister (at the time) Ron Lemieux. Not sure if anyone can find anything more current.
“These increases allow motorists some continuity when entering Manitoba from Saskatchewan and North Dakota,” said Lemieux. “We are not proceeding with any further speed limit increases at this time beyond the increases announced today. However, we will watch very closely how motorists respond to these increases and incorporate this into future highway planning.”
http://news.gov.mb.ca/news/index.html?archive=2009-3-01&item=5575 |
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| rkd5.9 |  8/4/2012 9:01:28 AM | Member since: Nov 2010 | | Total posts:1740 |
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| | Adam said "Added a link below to the press release from 2009 when they upped that stretch to 110 and another on Hwy 75.
It was three years ago, but this was the quote from Infrastructure and Transportation Minister (at the time) Ron Lemieux. Not sure if anyone can find anything more current.
“These increases allow motorists some continuity when entering Manitoba from Saskatchewan and North Dakota,” said Lemieux. “We are not proceeding with any further speed limit increases at this time beyond the increases announced today. However, we will watch very closely how motorists respond to these increases and incorporate this into future highway planning.”
http://news.gov.mb.ca/news/index.html?archive=2009-3-01&item=5575 " |
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Typical Govt response.
I wonder how motorists driving from PQ into New Brunswick handle the 20kph change there ?? NO easy transition, from 90kph in Que to WHAM 110 in NB , oh my the horrid transition & lack of continuity experience!!!!! LMAO |
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| theMaster |  8/4/2012 9:05:12 AM | Member since: Jan 2010 | | Total posts:102 |
| | | compare to interstates |  |  |
| | Truthie said "| | | Your not sorry! said "Paved shoulders. Once Manitoba paves the shoulders on trans Canada then we will be at 110kms also " |
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This is why they've slowly been working on resurfacing the whole transcanada and paving the shoulders. 75 south of Winnipeg will also go to 110. So far only a few miles of the 75 north of the US border has been bumped up to 110.
If we're really gonna complain about speed limits why don't we wonder why the TC isn't 121/kph like the interstates are in the US? " |
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I may be wrong but I think one of the other reasons we don't have speeds as high as the interstates is because we have actual 'intersections' meeting and 'crossing' the highways.. Most of the interstates where the speed is higher have on ramps, off ramps, underpasses and overpasses.. (I think).. these are likely safer for entering and exiting hi-speed traffic.
I am sure there are times when you are pulling out from a stop sign on to #1 and you aren't sure if you can pull out and get up to speed in time to not 'annoy' the person coming down #1 at you.. now add a few Kms/hr to their speed..
Other note, when the limit is 100 some people, if they want to, are doing 110 and not getting pulled over anyway.. when you get to sask with the limit at 110 now they are doing 120.. lol.
So here is a question: At what speed, do these people who like to go 'just' as fast as they can without getting pulled over, would they find fast enough? if the limit was 120 would they do 130? likely.. lol |
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| bigmike |  8/4/2012 9:11:06 AM | Member since: Sep 2011 | | Total posts:185 |
| | | Its only speeding |  |  |
If you get caught.... I still drive 115 on the highway to Winnipeg. I moved in from Saskatchewan and that was the accepted speed level there for the twin highways(posted at 110), so haven't managed to slow down to Manitoba's pace of life yet. That will likely change fast with my first speeding ticket....... |
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| Milky Whey |  8/4/2012 9:12:05 AM | Member since: Jul 2010 | | Total posts:273 |
| | | why the hurry |  |  |
enjoy the drive and the scenery, don't understand why most people are in such a hurry, much easier if you don't fight the flow, lots to look at no matter where you are going, I also love detours, never know what new stuff you will see. |
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| Old Rookie |  8/4/2012 9:39:08 AM | Member since: Aug 2010 | | Total posts:164 |
| | | I remember when |  |  |
The TransCanada was at 70 mph before we went metric and the speed was lowered to 90 kph. If the highway was built to handle 70 mph (about 115 kph) in the seventies, I'm sure that today's cars can handle that speed on that road no problem. Actually more of them can probably reach that speed now. Can you imagine driving a Chevette or Pinto at 70? Talk about scarey.
As far as what speed limit is needed to be posted so people won't "speed", I find very few people pass me at 75 mph on I 29 (the U.S. side of #75). One of the reasons that the U.S. dropped the 55 mph speed limit was that it made so many people into "lawbreakers" that a lot of individual states pushed for repeal of the federally mandated law because it was unenforcable. Car and Driver magazine did several pieces years ago on speeding tickets and the fact that well over 50% (up to 90% in areas) of traffic were simply ignoring the posted limit. When a law is ignored by a great portion of the populace it becomes unenforcable. There are simply not enough police, the majority of the people have to decide to follow the law and the police deal with the few who break it. Legislatures can pass laws, but the people really decide which laws we are governed by. |
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| Truck Chick |  8/4/2012 9:49:28 AM | Member since: Jun 2006 | | Total posts:1653 |
| | | Speed limit in Northern Ontario |  |  |
We just took the TC through Thunder Bay last month and the speed limit's only 90. Just throwing that out there. |
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| dennisgm |  8/4/2012 10:03:44 AM | Member since: Jul 2012 | | Total posts:19 |
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law was passed to increase to 110 some time ago.. Tch is slowly being upgraded to standard by paving gravel shoulders redoing grades etc.. be patient lol.. |
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| *enter name here* |  8/4/2012 10:05:07 AM | Member since: Nov 2008 | | Total posts:2045 |
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Know why it matters. People do whatever speed they want. I love people passing me while I do the speed limit. They are wasting more gas and only going to get to the destination a few minutes earlier. |
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| FarmerMike |  8/4/2012 10:07:55 AM | Member since: Mar 2011 | | Total posts:213 |
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| | aarman4 said "It might have more to do with what else shares the road in this province... the difference in speed is what is dangerous, not speed in itself, and I share the TransCanada on a daily basis with Combines and tractors and Ag-transport, as well as deer, moose, skunks, and of course, a boat load of foolish drivers, many with green-lettered plates on their cars(although they're not the danger, just dangerous). I see enough unsafe farm vehicles going a speed of less than 90 km/hr that I cannot fathom driving fast near them, or why they are even on the road..... As long as this province continues it's rediculous safety check mandate(and it is VERY rediculous), and the highways including the transcanada continue to be maintained in various states of disrepair, I doubt we will see a realistic change in the speed limit.
In my opinion, the speed limit should be 130km/hr, but that is with yearly safety checks for ALL vehicles, and a ban on Ag vehicles from the TC. " |
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Well, I can agree with you on some points here, that the road is shared with a variety of other vehicles that are not seen in other countries, but, I disagree with your comment on banning Ag vehicles off any road (TC included). We are in a rural farming area in southwest Manitoba and there will always be equipment to move. Sometimes a person has no choice to use the TC, it can save precious time if its during the farmers busy season.
As for what the speed limit should be? In my opinion, let people drive whatever they are comfortable with. If you feel safe driving 140kph, do it.....however, since it has been well documented that increasing speed can reduce stopping times and stuff like that, make a law that states if you get in an accident with another vehicle and if the vehicle that was "speeding" caused the accident, lets the fines and demerits pile up higher. Travelling at a higher speed increases the danger, so if a person wishes to go that fast, be prepared to pay the consequences should something happen.
Another side note, to help protect the condition of the highways {and if im not mistaken they do this in the US} large highway trucks if over a certain weight, must slow down to about 80kph. The heavier those trucks are the more damage they can do to the roads. |
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| Desertnewf |  8/4/2012 10:11:18 AM | Member since: Aug 2008 | | Total posts:657 |
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| | | Your not sorry! said "Paved shoulders. Once Manitoba paves the shoulders on trans Canada then we will be at 110kms also " |
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But at the rate they are going it won't be for another 5 yrs or so. Manitoba has some of the worst ro |
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| Desertnewf |  8/4/2012 10:13:07 AM | Member since: Aug 2008 | | Total posts:657 |
| | | Hmmm |  |  |
| | | Milky Whey said "enjoy the drive and the scenery, don't understand why most people are in such a hurry, much easier if you don't fight the flow, lots to look at no matter where you are going, I also love detours, never know what new stuff you will see. " |
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ok, what scenery???? |
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| Cee Jay 55 |  8/4/2012 10:39:29 AM | Member since: Apr 2009 | | Total posts:3004 |
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| | Old Rookie said "The TransCanada was at 70 mph before we went metric and the speed was lowered to 90 kph. If the highway was built to handle 70 mph (about 115 kph) in the seventies, I'm sure that today's cars can handle that speed on that road no problem. Actually more of them can probably reach that speed now. Can you imagine driving a Chevette or Pinto at 70? Talk about scarey.
As far as what speed limit is needed to be posted so people won't "speed", I find very few people pass me at 75 mph on I 29 (the U.S. side of #75). One of the reasons that the U.S. dropped the 55 mph speed limit was that it made so many people into "lawbreakers" that a lot of individual states pushed for repeal of the federally mandated law because it was unenforcable. Car and Driver magazine did several pieces years ago on speeding tickets and the fact that well over 50% (up to 90% in areas) of traffic were simply ignoring the posted limit. When a law is ignored by a great portion of the populace it becomes unenforcable. There are simply not enough police, the majority of the people have to decide to follow the law and the police deal with the few who break it. Legislatures can pass laws, but the people really decide which laws we are governed by. " |
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I was wondering the same thing - if it used to be 70mph (112kph) back in the 70s, why can't it be that now?
Anyway, I do 110 regardless. |
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| Milky Whey |  8/4/2012 10:57:59 AM | Member since: Jul 2010 | | Total posts:273 |
| | | ok |  |  |
| | Truthie said "| | | Milky Whey said "enjoy the drive and the scenery, don't understand why most people are in such a hurry, much easier if you don't fight the flow, lots to look at no matter where you are going, I also love detours, never know what new stuff you will see. " |
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To be fair some of us drive thousands of kilometers on these roads every week lol. It ain't scenery anymore when you see it 40 plus hours a week. Although I do still love me some Manitoba sunsets and wildlife from time to time " |
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I have been across and up and down this country and the US many, many times, spent quite a few years on the road. Always found something interesting to look at and just appreciate what is out there. I always enjoyed watching the progression of of crops, the calves in the spring, the changing of the green with the seasons, the different shapes of snow drifts. It is what you make it, slow down and enjoy, you will be surprised at what you will notice. |
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| JR |  8/4/2012 10:59:57 AM | Member since: Nov 2007 | | Total posts:1062 |
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| | | Truck Chick said "We just took the TC through Thunder Bay last month and the speed limit's only 90. Just throwing that out there. " |
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I grew up and learned how to drive in that area. The speed is 90 for a reason - lots of sharp corners and big hills. At least the road is a lot better today than it was 30-odd years ago. It used to be no wider than the average residential street with no paved shoulders. If you could drive there, you could drive anywhere.
I find that when I'm in that area, it's the vehicles with plates from the prairies (MB & SK mostly) who just can't seem to handle the terrain. They ride their brakes downhill thinking they'll be out of control if they don't and slow down from 110 to 75 or 80 entering corners.
Maybe that's why it's only 100 here - the gov't KNOWS that Manitobans just can't drive worth a damn - even on straight, level road.
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| Milky Whey |  8/4/2012 11:03:43 AM | Member since: Jul 2010 | | Total posts:273 |
| | | been there lots |  |  |
| | | Truck Chick said "We just took the TC through Thunder Bay last month and the speed limit's only 90. Just throwing that out there. " |
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and one of the best lessons I ever had in driving was working for a company that governed their trucks at 90 kmh, and the speed limit was 100, made me realize what a terrible driver I was because I had the speed and power, very rude at times. Much better minding my manners because I had to and then it just became habit, and do as the law request. Too expensive to get tickets, would rather keep my money in my account. |
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| Trevor |  8/4/2012 11:09:05 AM | Member since: Mar 2008 | | Total posts:1335 |
| | | You're right |  |  |
| | theMaster said "| | Truthie said "| | | Your not sorry! said "Paved shoulders. Once Manitoba paves the shoulders on trans Canada then we will be at 110kms also " |
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This is why they've slowly been working on resurfacing the whole transcanada and paving the shoulders. 75 south of Winnipeg will also go to 110. So far only a few miles of the 75 north of the US border has been bumped up to 110.
If we're really gonna complain about speed limits why don't we wonder why the TC isn't 121/kph like the interstates are in the US? " |
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I may be wrong but I think one of the other reasons we don't have speeds as high as the interstates is because we have actual 'intersections' meeting and 'crossing' the highways.. Most of the interstates where the speed is higher have on ramps, off ramps, underpasses and overpasses.. (I think).. these are likely safer for entering and exiting hi-speed traffic.
I am sure there are times when you are pulling out from a stop sign on to #1 and you aren't sure if you can pull out and get up to speed in time to not 'annoy' the person coming down #1 at you.. now add a few Kms/hr to their speed..
Other note, when the limit is 100 some people, if they want to, are doing 110 and not getting pulled over anyway.. when you get to sask with the limit at 110 now they are doing 120.. lol.
So here is a question: At what speed, do these people who like to go 'just' as fast as they can without getting pulled over, would they find fast enough? if the limit was 120 would they do 130? likely.. lol " |
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US Interstates are limited access roads, the TCH isn't. That's why you'll never see the speed limit on the TCH in the range of Interstates.
The speed limit is quite varied in the US actually, depending on the type of road. Regular 2 lane highway is 65mph. Full access 4 lane road (US 2) is 70mph. Interstates vary from 75-80mph. At least that's been my experience in the US. |
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| Sandra O |  8/4/2012 11:22:26 AM | Member since: Aug 2009 | | Total posts:76 |
| | | Paved shoulders |  |  |
I used to think it was the reason as many pointed out, BUT there are plenty of unpaved shoulder highways in NBand the wildlife/farm equipment being on the road doesn't stand up either...I would rather hit a skunk than a moose annnnnyday  there is a lot of farm and constuction equipment on their roads too.
TheMaster....your theory makes a lot of sence, there are a lot of intersections on our highways and in the other provinces it's over/underpasses and merges.
Guess its a bit of that and the laziness of MB gov't to bring us "up to speed" ;) lol |
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| Aggie |  8/4/2012 11:27:36 AM | Member since: Feb 2012 | | Total posts:17 |
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An RCMP officer from the Brandon area once told me that they usually won't stop a person for speeding on trans-canada in Manitoba until they go over 120 kms/hr. I think you should be alright going 110km/hr. |
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