Ryan Pulock possibly? What's everybody thoughts and opinions

Michael Ferland!  
 
Pulock's a good choice.

I guess it depends if the NHL locks out or not. If it does I'm sure Stone will be back to wear the C but if not I could see them giving it to Roy or Pulok

Pulock! Damn auto correct!

If there is a lockout I doubt Stone will be back. He'll play in the AHL. I've heard the Flames AHL team is also terrible so Ferland might even make them. Sundhar will be back for sure! He was barely good enough to play on the second line last year. Shoulda left him in Victoria.

If there's a lockout Stone will not be in the AHL there will be to much of a log jam of players that will need a place to play as they wouldn't be CHL eligible. And as Stone would have a place to play in the CHL they will put him there same goes for Ferland.

Assuming no surprises from pro, hard to believe it but I count only one player (Miller) that's played more than two seasons as a WK.  
 
Would have to think these things are partly decided based on personality and how they are with the players..... Something I don't know a whole lot about.  
 
Pulock, Roy are the big names and letter or no letter will be having to take on bigger roles. Bertaggia always gives it his all and would have to be seen as a leader by example, pretty rare for a European captain of a WHL team tho.  
 
Have heard Nikkel talked about as eventual captain material but its a little too soon... chance at an 'A' though if it isn't even too early for that?  
 
Is it possible they start the season with all A's and see who earns it??

Is stone and sundhar of within the age limit to play juniour yet?

All three have signed pro contracts but are of an age where they could technically play in the league next year as overagers.  
 
Stone has nothing left to prove in junior and even if there's an NHL labour stoppage I'd be really surprised if he was back.  
 
Ferland I wonder about. Such a raw late blooming talent. They might decide its time to develop him in the AHL or maybe they feel could benefit from a year of dominating the WHL and working on being a more consistent player. Also have to wonder if the assault charges will have any bearing.  
 
If there are NHL labour issues you also have to wonder about Sundher. Had some bad injury luck but certainly didn't light the world on fire after the trade. Sabres do look to be pretty thin on higher end forward prospects though which should mean that there are pro spots for the taking in their system.  
 
Still if any of the three were back you'd have to call it unusual since all are drafted, signed and have had success as top players at the WHL level.

What your missing is that it has nothing to do with whether or not they have anything left to prove at the WHL level or not. If there is a lockout their pro clubs will need to find places for there players to play. It becomes less about having them grow and more about not letting them deminish! Stone and other players in the CHL that are AHL or even NHL ready but would still be eligible for a year of junior have a place to play whereas others that are not eligible will need to play in the AHL. Look back on the last lockout and see the players we got back than that would normally made it pro

If none of the overagers return ... I can see Pulock getting it and it's just a thought but as his draft year is this year i thought maybe they would put him in a roll where he would be relied on leadership and in some cases that letter really boosts a players game and confidence. And also media wise scouts and gm's will be following him close this year as he was listing in the 'A' class for players to watch.

kjenw said "What your missing is that it has nothing to do with whether or not they have anything left to prove at the WHL level or not. If there is a lockout their pro clubs will need to find places for there players to play. It becomes less about having them grow and more about not letting them deminish! Stone and other players in the CHL that are AHL or even NHL ready but would still be eligible for a year of junior have a place to play whereas others that are not eligible will need to play in the AHL. Look back on the last lockout and see the players we got back than that would normally made it pro "

A lot of variables, not the least of which being that I don't think anyone goes into a lockout automatically expecting it'll last the whole season when it could conceivably only be a few weeks. No sure answers but IMO it could make a lot more of a difference for a 19 year old than a 20 year old. For the 19 AHL isn't an option so its either NHL or WHL..... so you would see someone like a Jonathan Huberdeau or a Ryan Murray playing junior when it sounds like they would've had good shots to make the NHL as 19 year olds (especially Huberdeau). An example of this type of player in 2004-2005 would've been Ryan Getzlaf or Dion Phaneuf who if memory serves me were considered to be NHL-ready but had nowhere else to play. Could possibly put Brent Seabrooke into this category too, can't remember where he was at development-wise?  
 
For the 20s that are ready to play pro and the AHL was one place where they'd take the next step to, the AHL is still an option. For some teams there'd be some trickle-down effect to the AHL for sure where a few roster spots could be taken up that normally would be open. An example of that in Ottawa could be the Silfverberg kid or Zibanejad, but pro in Europe would have to be an option too especially for Silfverberg. Ultimately it'll be up to the team, its depth, its priorities and what options it has available to move players around but when it comes to a player like Stone who has a chance to be a very good NHL player I could always be wrong but I think they'll do whatever they can to not waste a year of development when he's ready for a higher level of hockey. Remember this is a kid who they thought enough of to throw into making his debut in a really big playoff game.  
 
Just looking at 2004-2005 the WKs did get Konsorada and Monych back as 20 year olds, but neither was quite what you could call a top end prospect and so it was probably easier to justify them playing in the WHL for one more year. Just looking through the stat leaders for that year and I don't see any 20s that you could consider higher end prospects unless you count Konsorada. Top would-be 20s that I can find were Cam Ward, Josh Harding, Johnny Boychuk, Derek Meech and they all played AHL at 20 despite WHL being an option.  
 
But relating back to the original topic, if the WKs were lucky enough to see Stone back he would of course be captain and Ferland if back would have to be a leading candidate if no Stone. Sundher if back has the experience in the league but it isn't very often that you see a captain named thats only played a handful of games with the team.

Yaworski from P.A.......he'll add toughness, which I know we're going to need this season.  
 
On the topic of 20-year olds, I have to say that I don't feel good about Miller & Favreau being the only other overagers currently on the roster.  
 
I understand the loyalty with Miller, but he really isn't very good. Favreau never has been good either, and as a 19-year old was a 3rd or 4th liner, or didn't dress at all.  
 
I hope we're scouring other teams, and finding better available players like we did with Yaworski!!

I don't mind Miller as a defensemen if he was 18/19. But he shouldn't be taking up a 20 year old spot. We've already got a backlog of D-men coming up and we just traded for another one! Miller's not good enough to take up a 20 year old spot and must go.  
 
Whats worse is Favreau is way worse then Miller! It'd be hard to find a worse 20 year old to have on your team besides Melnychuk and Ciarelli but we've found it in Favreau. He's a first round pick bust! He should never have been on the team last year as a 19 year old but yes, I understand loyalties so they must let him play... unfortunately.  
 
Ideally if there's a lockout, which it looks like there will be, getting Stone, Ferland and Sundhar back is definitely best case scenerio and kicks all those 20 year olds off the team. We don't need Yaworski if we get Ferland back. FYI - Ferland has knocked Yaworski out in a previous fight...

I went to watch that on hockeyfights.com, but I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the one where he KO'd Austin Connor of P.A. in 2010/11.

ahhh shoot, sorry. Friend told me that he had and he's pretty knowledgeable about the Wheaties so I just assumed it had happened. Never did try and confirm the story myself. I was misinformed, sorry. But still stick by everything else.  
 
I also highly doubt we get Stone, Ferland or Sundhar back, I'm just saying thats obviously best case scenario. KM may have heard from Calgary telling him he won't be getting Ferland back which is why he went out and got Yaworski. Doesn't make much sense to get all your 20 year olds back and then have to dump the one you just traded for.

Are that Rene Hunter is the odd man out if they keep the 2 20 yr old dman. And also sat in front of Geordie mAguire last night at the bomber game and he talked with his buddies that he will come to camp but he is leaning toward playing with the wpg blues. As someone who is very involved with a mjhl team I can also say the blues are very very confident he will sign with them. As for the captain not sure who will get the C but I'm going to say either 2 or 24. 32,6 and 13 will have an A.ikely rotate home and away

Does anyone know what happens to the players if there is an NHL lockout and some of our junior eligible players are returned to the Wheat Kings and the CBA is settled? Would they remain the property of the Wheat Kings for the remainder of the season or would they be eligible to play professionally once a deal is in place, either AHL or NHL?  
 
I would assume that once the NHL team returns the junior eligible player to the CHL they must remain there until the end of their season just as it would be any other season, but I don't know for sure. I also recall reading that the deal between the CHL and NHL/AHL for returning junior eligible players has expired.  
 
Last lockout there was a good chance our 20 year olds (Konsorada, Monych, Later?) would have been returned with or without a lockout. I vaguely remember Oleg Tverdovsky only playing a handful of games with the Wheat Kings in 1994/95 but being a European player and many years ago may not have fallen under that agreement.

clma312 said "Are that Rene Hunter is the odd man out if they keep the 2 20 yr old dman. And also sat in front of Geordie mAguire last night at the bomber game and he talked with his buddies that he will come to camp but he is leaning toward playing with the wpg blues. As someone who is very involved with a mjhl team I can also say the blues are very very confident he will sign with them. As for the captain not sure who will get the C but I'm going to say either 2 or 24. 32,6 and 13 will have an A.ikely rotate home and away "

Any decisions young Mr. Maguire makes should probably be left for him to report himself. Congrats on being so "involved" with an MJHL team, but it's still not your announcement to make. We've all heard in the past how many people self proclaim themselves to be in the know, only to be proven incorrect. I'm sure nobody likes to be eavesdropped upon in public. Not your place to say.

20 year old situation has a little more competition after WKs pick up centre Nick Buonassisi. Can't remember watching him play very closely but looks to have some offense in him:  
http://wheatkings.com/article/wheat-kings-add-veteran-center  
 
Looking forward to seeing what he can do in this environment. Between Buonassisi and Nejezchleb the Wheat King pronunciation guide is going to be a popular item this year.

Doesn't have much bearing on our team, but apparently the CHL/AHL agmt re: min age of 20 has also expired.

The captain is not meant to be the best player. He is the guy who steps up when we need it. He is the loyal guy who will stand up for his teammates and play fearlessly. Based on these guidelines if Ferland and Stone done come back I believe Miller is the best option for captain followed by Pulock. Bertaggia is also a good pick because he always gives it his all.

Rush4ever30 said "The captain is not meant to be the best player. He is the guy who steps up when we need it. He is the loyal guy who will stand up for his teammates and play fearlessly. Based on these guidelines if Ferland and Stone done come back I believe Miller is the best option for captain followed by Pulock. Bertaggia is also a good pick because he always gives it his all. "

I second that!

While I don't necessarily disagree that Miller would be a okay captain, the fact that KM brought in another overage dman and the defensive depth the team has pretty much spells the end of Miller as a Wheat King IMO.  
 
I think it'll be Pulock.

For what its worth, Tyrel Seaman wore the 'C' in the game last night:  
http://www.whl.ca/schedule/show/game/63984  
 
There were 12 would-be rookies dressed, no Pulock, no Bertaggia or any of the 20s.

And Pulock last night.  
Haven't seen anything that would contradict it being #2 on Sept 21?

I believe the wheat kings are keeping miller which means I believe he will were the C this year, but will have to work hat to keep it.

Rush4ever30 said "I believe the wheat kings are keeping miller which means I believe he will were the C this year, but will have to work hat to keep it. "

As per lubers blog pulock is expected to be announced captain this week

Ryan Pulock! Definitely the best choice.  
 
http://www.wheatkings.com/article/pulock-to-wear-the-c