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traveling guy

8/15/2012 11:20:35 AM
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Riverfront damaged by loader (rant)

I am disappointed with the authorities. I farm on the Assiniboine River and recently noticed that my neighbor took his loader and dug holes, smashed trees and built a road on my property so he could launch his seadoo. It seems the river is too low where his property is. This is protected riverfront property, and I am not even allowed to have a cow walk on it.  
I called the local, provincial and federal authorities, and so far no one seems to care. Not even a call back.  
Why is it I have to follow the law and fence the river off, while anyone else can just take a loader and dig up the river anywhere they want? Where there was a nice island and creek is now a road.  
What makes the city boy think he can just run over my land and smash up things on my land? This is a total dissrespect of myself and the enviroment.  
Oh well money and connections win out again. I will post pictures as soon as I figure out how.

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SJK

8/15/2012 11:23:01 AM
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Can you

  
traveling guy said "I am disappointed with the authorities. I farm on the Assiniboine River and recently noticed that my neighbor took his loader and dug holes, smashed trees and built a road on my property so he could launch his seadoo. It seems the river is too low where his property is. This is protected riverfront property, and I am not even allowed to have a cow walk on it.  
I called the local, provincial and federal authorities, and so far no one seems to care. Not even a call back.  
Why is it I have to follow the law and fence the river off, while anyone else can just take a loader and dig up the river anywhere they want? Where there was a nice island and creek is now a road.  
What makes the city boy think he can just run over my land and smash up things on my land? This is a total dissrespect of myself and the enviroment.  
Oh well money and connections win out again. I will post pictures as soon as I figure out how. "

not charge them with trespassing?

Crash

8/15/2012 11:24:44 AM
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ok

so you have called local, MB and federal authorities and ranted on ebrandon...have you called the neighbor yet?

traveling guy

8/15/2012 11:40:12 AM
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He came over

  
Crash said "so you have called local, MB and federal authorities and ranted on ebrandon...have you called the neighbor yet? "

I talked to him and he admitted to it. Says it's not a big deal.

traveling guy

8/15/2012 11:42:37 AM
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I am told

  
Crash said "so you have called local, MB and federal authorities and ranted on ebrandon...have you called the neighbor yet? "

I am told it is a small fine, and hard to enforce as I had no "No trespassing signs.

jason d.

8/15/2012 11:49:52 AM
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well

It's clear no-one is going to help you here. Take matters into your own hands.  
Can you put up a fence with a locked gate? I realize this may not work and is expensive but if you want results you need to make the action. Put up no trespassing signs?  
Best thing would be to tell the guy to stay off your property but probably won't listen after all that work.

0201

8/15/2012 11:56:21 AM
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man

i'd be so mad at my neighbor if ever he did that. did he know it was your property? i understand why your mad. make sure you put up signs and tell him he can't use his new boat launch, as it's on your property! what a jerk.

snowman5

8/15/2012 11:57:07 AM
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If you want to start a fight...

I would simply put a few posts in the road and string the fence down the property line to the rivers edge. And say "No big deal". The lack of respect for a neighbour is rude and should be countered with "if you do this, I'll do that" attitude. I can not believe that someone would scrape-in a approach to the river without asking. I wouldn't want to start a feud, but if your municipal council won't do anything, it will be up to you to solve the problem.  
 
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.  
 
 
 
Edited by snowman5, 2012-08-15 12:07:42

army wife

8/15/2012 12:29:28 PM
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Department of fisheries

May have an opinion on what takes place on or near the river.

traveller

8/15/2012 12:51:17 PM
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wow, i'm not sure all the legalities for provincial and federal authorities or fisheries but i can't believe the neighbor would do that to your property, i would be calling the police or taking him to small claims court (although i thought there was something about crown owns so far around lakes and stream? i can't remember the distance or the size of water way it has to be? but look into that to make sure you have ground to stand on, i'd still be mad though)

RonHart

8/15/2012 1:06:31 PM
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nobody

is going to do anything.Fisheries might show but they will just drive home with there tails between there legs. My dude has damed of a creek flooded a well washed out a driveway and backed water up for 3 miles. They come out and looked and told him he needs to get a permit to put in a dam.  
You have an uphill battle on your hands.

Truthie

8/15/2012 1:19:01 PM
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yep

i would chain off his nice new eyesore and tack up your no trespassing signs. make sure he has no access to it without creating a heap of work for himself. this way you have a better case when you know he's going to try to use it. if he doesn't, problem solved. perhaps nature will take it's course and bring it back closer to what it was before ol trespassy mcgee got in there.  
 
Edited by Truthie, 2012-08-15 13:21:15

Jason Turner

8/15/2012 1:26:29 PM
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.

Maybe sue him for vandalism and make him pay for re-landscaping?

gopherit

8/15/2012 1:27:53 PM
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same here

fence it off and put up no trespassing sign. Friends of ours had people walking thru their property at the lake so they fenced it, problem solved.

CJC

8/15/2012 1:32:27 PM
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Aug 2009
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I would call..

Brandon Conversation  
Western Regional Office — Brandon  
Box 13, 1129 Queens Avenue  
Brandon MB R7A 1L9  
(204) 726-6441  
My father was a conversation officer for years they handle this kind of stuff

hambone

8/15/2012 1:52:00 PM
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riverfront

You should also call the Manitoba Water Control Board (not sure of the actual name) I don't believe you can alter the coarse of a waterway ( such as a creek) without permits.

Amused

8/15/2012 2:04:18 PM
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Jun 2007
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Personally...

  
traveling guy said "I am disappointed with the authorities. I farm on the Assiniboine River and recently noticed that my neighbor took his loader and dug holes, smashed trees and built a road on my property so he could launch his seadoo. It seems the river is too low where his property is. This is protected riverfront property, and I am not even allowed to have a cow walk on it.  
I called the local, provincial and federal authorities, and so far no one seems to care. Not even a call back.  
Why is it I have to follow the law and fence the river off, while anyone else can just take a loader and dig up the river anywhere they want? Where there was a nice island and creek is now a road.  
What makes the city boy think he can just run over my land and smash up things on my land? This is a total dissrespect of myself and the enviroment.  
Oh well money and connections win out again. I will post pictures as soon as I figure out how. "

Personally, if you have not called these people, do so.  
 
Oceans and Fisheries  
 
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/regions/central/habitat/os-eo/provinces-territories-territoires/mb/os-eo-dfo-mpo-eng.htm  
 
Trespassing  
 
http://web2.gov.mb.ca/laws/statutes/ccsm/p050e.php  
 
I would contact a lawyer and sue him financially in order to return the land back to its previous state. Also have an order in place so that he cannot enter onto your property.  
 
Yes, call the police and file a report.

traveling guy

8/15/2012 5:34:56 PM
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Department of Fisheries and Oceans

Fisheries are shorthanded right now. No Conservation officer or DFO person in Brandon any more. They have to stick to the high priority cases.

The quiet one

8/15/2012 6:05:27 PM
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Try this

Call josh crabb from CTV Brandon....

Amused

8/15/2012 6:10:56 PM
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Rattle

  
traveling guy said "Fisheries are shorthanded right now. No Conservation officer or DFO person in Brandon any more. They have to stick to the high priority cases. "

Rattle this chain.  
 
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/minister-ministre/minister-ministre-eng.htm  
 
Get the media, the RCMP, and a lawyer involved. If this is your land then your neighbor had no right to destroy your property. Make him accountable and if not, then there is no reason to "rant".  
 

cuzisaidso

8/15/2012 6:17:57 PM
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....

ya, what he said ^ , that and if all else fails, if it is your property, then you can do what you like to it and remove this road he built or whatever else you feel like...

Tanner B.

8/15/2012 8:04:40 PM
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Jun 2010
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Conservation District, Habitat Heritage

Try contacting your local Conservation District and the MB Habitat Heritage Corporation. They may pressure Water Stewardship (MB Conservation) to act upon the situation.  
I'm assuming the Mid Assiniboine River CD would be appropriate for you (mgr.marcd@goinet.ca).  
MB Habitat Heritage: <:A target="_blank" HREF="http://www.mhhc.mb.ca/">:http://www.mhhc.mb.ca/<:/A>:  
mhhc@mhhc.mb.ca  
 
Edited by Tanner B., 2012-08-15 20:05:23

Miss

8/15/2012 8:46:43 PM
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Nov 2009
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Awful

Wow, that is awful. How rude and disrespectful and also illegal. You can see the serious damage he did and he should have to pay to have it fixed and new trees planted. Start a petition to make authorities do something about it. I will sign it and I am sure many others will too.  
The no trespassing sign is BS.. it is still protected and not his land and he knew it so he can still be charged for sure.

holybatman

8/15/2012 11:25:58 PM
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Mar 2009
Total posts:339
..

Im not sure as to why you didnt just call the police? He trespassed and damaged your property. He should have been charged for trespassing and vandalism. ( if there were no trespassing signs say there was one there and put one there.)

Jason Turner

8/16/2012 4:36:53 AM
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Jun 2010
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.

Definitely let us know of future developments! Think we're all on your side.

Mandy6

8/16/2012 7:30:10 AM
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Jul 2012
Total posts:401
Just awful

I gree with everyone above. Don't let this guy get away with it. What an ignorant neighbor! We are on your side.

craig83

8/16/2012 9:13:17 AM
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Aug 2011
Total posts:22
looking at the pictures

i see old grass growing on trail, old dead trees fallen over trench, grass growing right up to the trench and not one fresh tree stump showing through this "brand new trail". This looks like something that has been around for years. Not saying trespassing for damaging someones property is right, but this doesn't look like something that has recently happened

Amused

8/16/2012 10:30:32 AM
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craig83

craig83, you may wish to look closer....the area has been disturbed. craig83, if the neighbor did this damage, he had no business or right to do this.

 

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