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Topic: Lorne Ave. Accident
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rjb1962.

10/6/2017 11:48:22 AM
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Lorne Ave. Accident

Another accident involving speed and alcohol.  
One person airlifted to Winnipeg and three more sent to Brandon hospital - when will people learn?  
 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/crash-brandon-airlifted-1.4343345

rjb1962.

10/6/2017 12:41:57 PM
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update from CKLQ

The_Young_Man

10/6/2017 1:16:04 PM
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No kidding

The part I find interesting, according to the police release, is both drivers involved were impaired, but one was worse than the other. People need to wake up and smarten up.  
 
http://police.brandon.ca/media-zone

Fishin Guy

10/6/2017 1:52:45 PM
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...

They should be fined huge to cover costs involved. MPI raises rates for us due to clowns like this.

Reid

10/6/2017 3:30:25 PM
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Please People

Stop drinking and driving !!! Why are so many behind the wheel after drinking? You know its illegal ... you know it kills ..... Why do this? Please lose the keys when you drink and find another way, please stop going for a drive to find your old lady or whatever the problem is while your drunk .... CALL A TAXI !! Please for the safety of us all , DONT DRINK AND DRIVE !!

Jessica08

10/6/2017 4:02:19 PM
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The

driver of the Traverse was not DUI, she got the warning as she was between .05 and .08 which ONLY carries a 3 day suspend. So the Traverse driver should not be charged at all.

pinkflamingos

10/6/2017 4:17:01 PM
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This always grinds my gears

Pardon my rant, but it needs to be said, DUI sentencing is way too lenient in Canada. It's only treated as a serious crime if you happen to hurt somebody when you're caught. If a grownass adult drinks and drives he should be awarded with a real fine (it can be as low as $1000 for a first offense) and some jailtime even in the first offense. They're a huge threat to public safety and do not deserve a second chance after a little probationary period just because they didn't hurt anybody at the particular time they were caught. It's so dumb how we will imprison people caught with a small amount of marijuana but people who are literally caught endangering the public are allowed to walk free.

CrimsonKing

10/6/2017 4:23:51 PM
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Nice

I was driving my son to school this morning and we saw the police presence and everything in the area. Which would suggest that this incident occurred in a school area at a time when kids are on their way to school and we've got 2 separate vehicles being driven by impaired drivers at like 8am?! Taking that into consideration, these people shouldn't be getting their licenses back anytime soon. Ever would be best.

curlysister

10/6/2017 4:31:34 PM
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Time

Occured at 2:40 AM according to the CBC article.

Hackeda

10/6/2017 4:41:22 PM
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Rant on

  
pinkflamingos said "Pardon my rant, but it needs to be said, DUI sentencing is way too lenient in Canada. It's only treated as a serious crime if you happen to hurt somebody when you're caught. If a grownass adult drinks and drives he should be awarded with a real fine (it can be as low as $1000 for a first offense) and some jailtime even in the first offense. They're a huge threat to public safety and do not deserve a second chance after a little probationary period just because they didn't hurt anybody at the particular time they were caught. It's so dumb how we will imprison people caught with a small amount of marijuana but people who are literally caught endangering the public are allowed to walk free. "

We knew a guy who drove drunk, killed his passenger and got 2 years. ONLY 2 years because he had no INTENT to kill anyone. Does every murderer in Canada get this loophole? The U.S. does not consider intent. IMO, you know the law before you get tanked so there should be no leniency toward you once you've been caught under the influence.  
 
Canada is so ass backwards. Tax the hard working Canadians to death & financially house/feed & support the rest.  
 
I agree with another poster who said maybe drunk driving laws should be zero blood alcohol content tolerance.  
 
MPI also needs to step up and NAIL drunk drivers and stop raising rates for the rest of us with max merits. We're sick of it.

Missing in Action

10/6/2017 5:08:14 PM
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screw that

Here my 2 cents and i don't care if people don't like this. I got two girls and one in a couple years will be driving, in fact i was driving my daughter home from swimming on the same road as that crash on Kirkcaldy DR 30 minutes before the crash. I am pro life and if you drink and drive it not pro life for everyone on the road or you too. 1st offence 3 months jail, no lawyer no court you don't collect 200 you just go straight to jail. Second offence 1 year and 3rd 2 years in jail and life time suspension of your drivers license.Also kiss your vehicle gone for good right from the first offence and on. Does that sound to extreme well get over it. Drinking and drive will kill you and other involve that are simply just wanting to go to work or school or a concert. Grow up and stop drinking and driving.  
 
I bet if they did what i suggest it will stop very fast.

The_Young_Man

10/6/2017 5:46:12 PM
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Early morning

  
CrimsonKing said "I was driving my son to school this morning and we saw the police presence and everything in the area. Which would suggest that this incident occurred in a school area at a time when kids are on their way to school and we've got 2 separate vehicles being driven by impaired drivers at like 8am?! Taking that into consideration, these people shouldn't be getting their licenses back anytime soon. Ever would be best. "

It happened in the early morning hours, police were just conducting their investigation at that time.

Trapper85

10/6/2017 6:14:14 PM
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back

When I was 18, my best friend, got behind the wheel, while impaired, in the car he had, my brother and his wife, ( of 2 kids) my girlfriend ( whom I had proposed to, date set,) I was supposed to be in the vehicle, but made other choices, long story short, I’m alive and my best friend is alive, they all made choices that night and I’m not saying that the impaired driver is not at fault, all I know is my best friend destroyed my life and lived and I can tell you every day he regrets it and so do I, but he’s still my best friend, and always will be, he made a mistake, as many of us do, law or no law, please don’t crucify this person on e Brandon, for they may have a drinking problem, made a bad call, however the scenario let’s pray for this person because they have a whole life of guilt ahead of them

~BooBoo~

10/6/2017 6:14:50 PM
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pinkflamingo

I can’t quote you from your post but let me tell you this... a first offense is a lot more costly than just $1000 fine. (No accident involved, just caught and pulled over)  
 
$1,000 is the minimum fine for blowing over .08 even on a first offense.  
 
Add on any administrative fees from the court.  
 
Then you need to pay AFM for a course at a tune of almost $700 or more.  
 
Throw in towing and impound fees for your vehicle (usually 30 days minimum when blowing over .08) so that could cost upwards $800  
 
Add in any lawyer fees you might have aquired.  
 
Once all that is said and done, you need to deal with the upwards of -10 Demerits that you get tacked into your license so you have those costs to pay when you want your license back.  
 
Then there is the blow box you need to have installed in your vehicle to be allowed back on the road. That not only comes with an installation fees and a training course on how to use it properly but you also have to pay a monthly fee on that as it’s in your vehicle. That you usually have to have in your vehicle for a year.  
 
Lets not forget the damage that those choices can have on the rest of a person’s family if they have one.  
 
And that’s all when no accident is involved. Add on having an accident involved and the penalties and charges increase as well as the person having to live with their dumbass choices for the rest of their lives.  
 
So yeah. Drinking and driving is extremely dumb and costly whether an accident was involved or not and people need to give their damn head a shake.

Hackeda

10/6/2017 6:33:26 PM
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IMO this is garbage

  
Trapper85 said "When I was 18, my best friend, got behind the wheel, while impaired, in the car he had, my brother and his wife, ( of 2 kids) my girlfriend ( whom I had proposed to, date set,) I was supposed to be in the vehicle, but made other choices, long story short, I’m alive and my best friend is alive, they all made choices that night and I’m not saying that the impaired driver is not at fault, all I know is my best friend destroyed my life and lived and I can tell you every day he regrets it and so do I, but he’s still my best friend, and always will be, he made a mistake, as many of us do, law or no law, please don’t crucify this person on e Brandon, for they may have a drinking problem, made a bad call, however the scenario let’s pray for this person because they have a whole life of guilt ahead of them "

"Let's pray for this person because they have a whole life of guilt ahead of them"? Are you serious?  
 
The innocent victims have NO life! Their friends & families have to live with the aftermath of losing loved ones.  
 
Don't crucify the person? Have you ever known a victim of a drunk driving crash to survive and have to live with life-altering head injuries? Loss of mobility (wheelchair 24/7)?  
 
I can only hope that people stupid enough to get behind the wheel under the influence of anything, suffer as much if not more that the victims & their friends and families.  
 
Getting into an accident while drinking and driving is not a matter of chance, it's only a matter of when. The innocent people affected are the ones who need prayers and a harsher justice system.  
 
My good God, if Canada had the death penalty or adopted 'an eye for an eye' justice system, then maybe people would stop killing innocent people and would THINK before they "made a mistake". Alcohol is no excuse. You know right from wrong before you start drinking!  
 
No sympathy here. You drive drunk, you're on your own.

JRL

10/6/2017 8:21:10 PM
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Jun 2014
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Another thread about drunk driving...

And none of the civil liberties people from the other thread about the new drunk driving laws are around to defend the drunks' rights. Of our society is going to reduce drunk driving the law has to close the loopholes and the chatter about civil rights is an unnecessary distraction.

Trapper85

10/7/2017 3:12:50 PM
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Feb 2016
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yes hackeda

I do know someone who is in a wheelchair 24/7 for a drunk driving incident, and it happens to be the driver, I look after him everyday, he killed my fiancé and my brother and his wife, and also paid the price, served his prison term of 3 yrs in a chair, all I was saying that we all make choices good or bad but somehow we always end up paying the price, and I should have said that we should pray for everyone involved, because it is a very unfortunate situation.

CrimsonKing

10/8/2017 5:40:35 AM
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Apr 2012
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My mistake

Didn't realize it was at the time it was. Still though!

 
 
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