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SJK

4/21/2009 8:55:03 AM
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I also love the new system..

  
Mischa said "I like the idea of recycling, but not with a zillion little garbage/recycling bins outside. There's 18 suites in our apt. and at least 2 ppl or more living in each, so have 6 garbage cans is not enough, usually one persons garbage can fill up one garbage bin. If it's really windy and there cans are not full they blow all over the place, and garbage is blown everywhere it's a mess! I think a smarter idea would of been to keep our regular "big dumpsters" for the garbage, and get a big recycling one. Then they would be big, fit everyones stuff in there, and wouldn't blow around and get garbage and recycling blown everywhere. "

For a household of 4, we only have to put out the garbage usually every 3 weeks and it still won't be quite full. Our recycling bin goes out every 1 -2 weeks. I find it hard to believe that one person's trash could fill up one bin. They're obviously not recycling. I have never come home to my bin blown over, I have never had to pick up any loose garbage off the street, (I bag ALL my garbage) And NO I don't believe it's the cities problem. Talk to your landlords! And do any of you really think that the backlanes are any worse than they were before the new system? At least I don't see any old couches and appliances littering them anymore.

ajmoore

4/21/2009 8:56:59 AM
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I agree

I also live in a town house community and we have about 18 bins along our entrance into the bay!!! 18 bins that is alot of bins! The funny part about these bins because they are not handed out to each townhosue all the bins (including the blue ones) are as full as can be with garbage!! Each home was suppose to get one so why didn't each townhouse get one? i think we aren't lazy and we got push our bins there for garbage day. Yesterday the garbage truck came and picked up the garbage but it felt like they haven't been there in like 3 weeks. There is garbage everywhere in our bay!!! who is going to clean that up? The bad thing about this is we can't go back to the big bins. Last year we had the big bins and the bee's were really really bad!! we live right beside all the bins and in the summer the bees are really bad because of the smell and heat, for my sake and families sake i don't need all the bees back again. I found the small bins didn't contain bees but if they continue to keep all the crap piling up the lids won't close and we will then have bees back.

na

4/21/2009 9:33:49 AM
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ha ha

  
Paul M said "
  
Hoa-Tapu said "Like the new system the way it is. It is a better way of doing it than the old system. The main reason they switched was because the trucks they where using where getting to old and could not be repaired anymore, and the bins where starting to rust and fall apart. I know that at the apartment buildings something has to change. If the city would have made the apartments, (probably 25 years ago or more) use private company's like they should have this would not be a problem. There might have to be a cut in taxes for this to be fixed. But it comes down to people caring about there community and taking care of it. But there is allot of people the don't care and just throw garbage anywhere. "

While it is true that the old bins were getting rusty and needing replacement, basically there was nothing wrong with the trucks. What do you think we did with them? We sold them! Not to a scrap yard, but another city somewhere.  
I can still get parts for my '64 GMC...you think ther are going to stop makeing parts for a 90ish garbage truck? "

patrs for your '64.  
 
 
Of course this garbage dilemma will not have a happy ending...  
 
 
The purpose of all this is that we are being 'trained' to create less garbage, recycle etc.  
 
Those bins and garbage flying all over town is a real eyesore.

Yep

4/21/2009 9:54:01 AM
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Sorry

  
SJK said "
  
Mischa said "I like the idea of recycling, but not with a zillion little garbage/recycling bins outside. There's 18 suites in our apt. and at least 2 ppl or more living in each, so have 6 garbage cans is not enough, usually one persons garbage can fill up one garbage bin. If it's really windy and there cans are not full they blow all over the place, and garbage is blown everywhere it's a mess! I think a smarter idea would of been to keep our regular "big dumpsters" for the garbage, and get a big recycling one. Then they would be big, fit everyones stuff in there, and wouldn't blow around and get garbage and recycling blown everywhere. "

For a household of 4, we only have to put out the garbage usually every 3 weeks and it still won't be quite full. Our recycling bin goes out every 1 -2 weeks. I find it hard to believe that one person's trash could fill up one bin. They're obviously not recycling. I have never come home to my bin blown over, I have never had to pick up any loose garbage off the street, (I bag ALL my garbage) And NO I don't believe it's the cities problem. Talk to your landlords! And do any of you really think that the backlanes are any worse than they were before the new system? At least I don't see any old couches and appliances littering them anymore. "

To burst your bubble but there are still couches and beds and everything else piling up beside these bins now!!!!  
 
I myself don't mind it, I take my bin out and then put it back after, it is the other 30 bins or so that are lined up down the back lane that is the problem. And yes it is worse now with the smaller bins for mess!!

BiG Daddy

4/21/2009 10:02:00 AM
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A bad expensive idea

  
evelyn zookies said "
  
Paul M said "
  
Hoa-Tapu said "Like the new system the way it is. It is a better way of doing it than the old system. The main reason they switched was because the trucks they where using where getting to old and could not be repaired anymore, and the bins where starting to rust and fall apart. I know that at the apartment buildings something has to change. If the city would have made the apartments, (probably 25 years ago or more) use private company's like they should have this would not be a problem. There might have to be a cut in taxes for this to be fixed. But it comes down to people caring about there community and taking care of it. But there is allot of people the don't care and just throw garbage anywhere. "

While it is true that the old bins were getting rusty and needing replacement, basically there was nothing wrong with the trucks. What do you think we did with them? We sold them! Not to a scrap yard, but another city somewhere.  
I can still get parts for my '64 GMC...you think ther are going to stop makeing parts for a 90ish garbage truck? "

patrs for your '64.  
 
 
Of course this garbage dilemma will not have a happy ending...  
 
 
The purpose of all this is that we are being 'trained' to create less garbage, recycle etc.  
 
Those bins and garbage flying all over town is a real eyesore. "

 
As a formal mayoral Candidate I really wanted to have my say on this. To begin with This transition once again puts more city work into the hands of the brandon citizen. Then theres the problem of were do you put a whole yard full of leafs and grass, and were does your nasty neighbore through out his furniture. Then theres the idea of privacy, as its a fact you can tell alot about a person by there garbage. Efficiancy was not apart of this idea as this collection process by mathamatical certainty is not more efficiant for the city workers. These cans do not make our city look better. The old cans were never maintaind proporly and these ones wont be ether. These are your tax dollars and mine, by the looks of it alot of them. Finaly I would like to say that in the way of the environment and recycling, there are more practicle and ambishis ways of dealing with things. For example eliminating the plastic bags you get every single time all of us go to almost any store. I am sorry that this has been the focus of so much Brandon money and time and wished to have seen that type of expenditure spent on something more permanent and more beautifull like brick side walks nice lamp poles a real quality paint job on all the fire hydrants. Aswell as finacial help to landlords and tenants to make sure there housing is of a great standard to pass such winters.

D.D.

4/21/2009 12:28:10 PM
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Someone should be FIRED over this fiasco!

Our cities image is tarnished with these new bins. Just drive around and open your eyes. City officials should realize people are inherently lazy. I believe they should have kept the old bins and added the recycling ones and just go to an eight day collection period.  
 
Spring and fall clean-up is going to be a nightmare! We live on a double corner lot in the north end and in the past we could easily completely fill 3 of large bins with leaves. Now what the hell am I going to do? Do not tell me to compost or haul leaves to a collection site either. From what I have read composting leaves alone does not work well and my compost bin would be the size of a small garage! Regarding hauling them to a collection site, that would take 10 trips in our car and be just filthy.  
 
I would burn the dam things but I am sure the neighbors would not be happy and I know the fire dept. would be very unhappy.  
 
Hmm, those railway tracks out front might be useful for something after all seeing as they already look like a piece of $ht.  
 
I tried to prepare for the new bins by cutting down 15 or so trees in our yard to reduce the amount of leaves. YA that's really green! Though we did add about a dozen cedars.  
 
Also what's up with all those people that are to lazy to bring their bins into their yards after pick-up? Get off your A$$'$ Beside us are 2 new $500,000 condo's and the owners have been to lazy to move the bins from the curb even once!  
 
Well that's just my 2 cents.

Hoa-Tapu

4/21/2009 1:33:12 PM
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Yes

  
Paul M said "
  
Hoa-Tapu said "Like the new system the way it is. It is a better way of doing it than the old system. The main reason they switched was because the trucks they where using where getting to old and could not be repaired anymore, and the bins where starting to rust and fall apart. I know that at the apartment buildings something has to change. If the city would have made the apartments, (probably 25 years ago or more) use private company's like they should have this would not be a problem. There might have to be a cut in taxes for this to be fixed. But it comes down to people caring about there community and taking care of it. But there is allot of people the don't care and just throw garbage anywhere. "

While it is true that the old bins were getting rusty and needing replacement, basically there was nothing wrong with the trucks. What do you think we did with them? We sold them! Not to a scrap yard, but another city somewhere.  
I can still get parts for my '64 GMC...you think ther are going to stop makeing parts for a 90ish garbage truck? "

you can get parts for a garbage truck, but when they start breaking down everyday and have to be repaired it gets to costly. You can't compare a car to a garbage truck. They have allot of other moving parts that normal vehicles don't. The arms to lift the bins and to squish the garbage. And yes they probably did sell them but to a small town that would not use them every day.

Clever Monkey

4/21/2009 1:58:53 PM
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More advance research

I live on a block with H-shaped alleys, where the dumpsters used to be out in the back. Now, because the smaller trucks apparently can't maneuver in the alley, I have to take my little bins out front. Sure would've been nice if someone would've seen that little pitfall coming before the city spent all the money.  
 
...especially in view of the fact that my street's a popular parking area for BU students, since they can park there all day for free.  
 
Edited by Clever Monkey, 2009-04-21 14:16:13

LC

4/21/2009 7:44:25 PM
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I love the new bins

I love these new bins. As a family of four, during the winter we put out our garbage and recycling bins once every three weeks.  
There is a reason an apartment or 4 plex has fewer bins than the number of families living in it. A single family shouldn't be filling either bin on a weekly basis. If you are, quit creating so much garbage!

fargobob

4/22/2009 2:36:34 PM
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Root of the problem...People

I just had a person at the shop, making a pick-up. He came inside to get some signatures and in passing he mentioned that someone had come out of a nearby apartment block and walked past the dumpsters and tossed a bag of trash (recycling) into the lane. With people of that attitude its no wonder we have a problem with trash blowing all over the city.  
 
I did walk over and deposit it into a completely empty recycling bin. It sure is nice to know some people care that much about their environment. I guess it takes all kinds.

prairieboy

4/22/2009 2:48:58 PM
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!!

  
fargobob said "I just had a person at the shop, making a pick-up. He came inside to get some signatures and in passing he mentioned that someone had come out of a nearby apartment block and walked past the dumpsters and tossed a bag of trash (recycling) into the lane. With people of that attitude its no wonder we have a problem with trash blowing all over the city.  
 
I did walk over and deposit it into a completely empty recycling bin. It sure is nice to know some people care that much about their environment. I guess it takes all kinds. "

kinda reminds me of our neighbors, they throw everything into the garbage bins, all the recycling stuff they throw out goes right into the garbage, i am constantly picking thru our garbage bins pulling out their junk that can be recycled. people like this just don't give a sh*t.

ucjohn

4/24/2009 5:40:31 AM
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Change Needed Bad!

This issue is still pointless. I live in a 4 Plex we all recycle and do everything accordingly. But still not enough we have 3 recycling bins 3garbage cans and trust me even still the recycling bins get filled quickly cause we all recycle and garbage cans get full too. Nothing will happen until a city meeting where landlords or tendants can possibly complain or bring up this issue. I for one would like to see a change in this cause its getting nasty looking and I can't see anything good possibly coming from it. I for one would definatly like to see a change in the system. I know the city spent alot of time and money /our money and theres. Ya a garbage truck has moving parts and so do the new ones hydralic parts the new ones will also brake down as the old ones. The Big cans might have been unsightly at times but atleast if you called the city to inform them of where you live they would arrive same day or next day and empty it. It's only a phone call and they normally do it. Now you call the number and you get a recording or you get someone that can't really be of any service. Well hmm lets see lets figure out a solution before the streets or parks get and worse this is supposed to be (GREEN) I ain't seeing green I'm seeing garbage and filth everywhere. I drive Taxi for 4-way I see back alleys and parks and everything it's a nasty eyesite and I feel sorry for the kids that have to play near it. I know some people call it being LAZY! but alot of people don't see that no not everyone is being lazy alot of people are doing what the system intended on doing but yet it still fails and needs alot of work to make it better. Ya people that live in the east end or a area like cornell bay should have a bins with a reycycling bins beside it. But what we got now it crazy dozens of bins in areas that can't handle that many and are running low on spance. Well I for one would definatly want to see some sorta Smart idea (Change) take affect before the issue gets outta control!

Brenda

4/27/2009 6:50:00 AM
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quick question

I have looked on the City of Brandon website and read some of these posts (but there are so many), I might have missed this being addressed already.  
 
What do we do with our grass clipping. I see a map to take them to, but can we put them in our waste bin, bagged or not bagged? We always have plenty of room each week in our bin, so I wanted to make sure I played by the rules...  
 
Amyone know?

Yep

4/27/2009 7:41:41 AM
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Brenda

Well you can do what one of my neighbors did, he waited till the garbage was picked up and then once the truck was gone he proceeded to fill up 3 of the bins in the back lane!!  
 
I am not sure of the right way of doing it but I am sure if you called the city there would be some sort of pick up for that.

Truck Chick

4/27/2009 8:24:36 AM
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And now

the City of Winnipeg is looking into getting these, citing the fact that Brandon has them. Who would like to send them the link to this thread? ;-)

lisaN

4/27/2009 10:00:55 AM
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Since my original post...

So it has been I think about 1 1/2 weeks since I originally began this post... if you recall I talked about cleaning out the field behind my house?!? I filled 2 garbage bags (not including the recycling), well since then the little field behind our place is once again covered in garbage, the majority of it coming from the bins on the road beside the field... and NO it is not because of people laziness not closing the lids... the lids cannot be closed because the bins are once again full! There is once again garbage all over the road and everywhere. I give up, today I plan on going out once again and spending more of my time cleaning up the neighborhood... guess I know what my summer is going to be like.

Fishin Guy

4/27/2009 10:52:57 AM
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Wonder about Calgary...

when I was visiting my buddy in Calgary he had bins like ours. I think what it boils down to is the biggest problem is the commercial units. If the bins are getting that full so fast, were the big bins not filled all the time either? I live where they had the big bins and they were always full. As a family of 3 we only put our bins out every 2-3 weeks and it is usually 1 bin only. I think the intent of the city was to provide one universal collection system. I don't think they planned on having one for residential and one for commercial. As a business I don't expect the city to change their plans on collecting garbage for me. I have 3rd party collection. If more pressure was put on the owners of the buildings they should look into the larger bins. The only problem I can see is that when someone sees the larger bins that is when couches, chairs, air condiditioners, grass clippings get thrown in and filled up and you have the same problems again of overfull bins. Either way there will always be problems.

Brenda

4/27/2009 11:19:11 AM
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grass clippings

I e-mailed the city and got the response that grass clippings can go bagged in the refuse container.

Chunky Monkey

6/12/2009 8:57:01 AM
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I HAVE TRIED !!

I have tried to use both cans.. I kept getting notices in my mail box I was not using recycle bin right! SO I am no longer using the recycle bin it is throwin behind my shed!! Everything goes into the Garbage Bin!!  
 
How the heck do they know what is in my cans? I watch truck come by not like they are lookin threw before dumping it in truck!  
 
WHO IS SNOOPIN IN MY BINS??  
All I know is I am tierd of damn notices!!  
 
Oh and another thing when I put my Bin out it is standing upright like they want it! They dumb it and no word of a lie throw it down... sometimes it is on its side, other times in middle of street! These bins arent going to last long with that care!!

Brenda

6/12/2009 9:05:41 AM
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Chunky~Monkey~

I was thinking the same thing about them not lasting long. Whenever I come home after the garbage has been picked up, the bin is on its side, back, the lid flung open. I am not sure they can withstand that every week.

wonderbyrd

6/12/2009 9:13:43 AM
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the difference

  
EastEndChris said "the City of Winnipeg is looking into getting these, citing the fact that Brandon has them. Who would like to send them the link to this thread? ;-) "

is that winnipeg already has indivual pick up like brandon just not the bins Apt buildings has large metal bins of their own. So I don't think much is going to change. I for one can not wait to have this system. When I first moved here to Winnipeg I missed brandons new system. It would make the backlanes here look alot nicer and cleaner.

Triumph

6/12/2009 9:24:55 AM
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Stealing Bins

Last week my husband was in our backyard for a smoke. He noticed five adults pacing and scouting in the backlane. He was interested so he watched from the patio.  
 
Two then went to one of the left out bins (pick up was earlier that day), emptied the residents garbage all over the lawn and then started to fill it with empties. This was while the other three watched from a distance. They then walked away with her bin.  
 
The next week our black bin was missing.  
 
A call was placed both times with the city.

Kevan Sumner

6/12/2009 9:37:59 AM
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city-hired student

The city hired a student to go ahead of the trucks and "snoop" through the recycling bins.  
 
If I understand correctly, a single bin of non-recycling mixed in with the recyling pick-up will result in the whole load being rejected for recyling and sent to the regular landfill. As a result, it was becoming a major concern that people weren't using them propertly. To improve usage, the city hired a summer student to check the bins ahead of the truck and send a notice to anyone who wasn't complying.  
 
Personally, I think it's a great idea. I don't want to go through the work of separating out my recyling, only to have it be sent to the regular landfill because someone else didn't.  
 
Edit: This post was in response to Chunky-Monkey's post above. For some reason the quote didn't show up.  
 
Edited by Kev, 2009-06-12 09:39:17

anknmn

6/12/2009 10:12:18 AM
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The City's Mistake ...

The mistake made by the city in this is ASSUMING (clearly erroneously) that Brandonites will do several things ...  
 
1)They will READ the instuctions on the PROPER procedure to use the aforementioned bins ...  
 
2) They will USE the bins properly  
 
3) They will move the bins to and from their homes as needed.  
 
The problems mentioned in this thread are NOT the fault of the City or its employees - the fault is people (caretakers and landlords included) failing to follow the procedure laid out for the bins. The rolling bins are not to be left in the alley way, or the parking lot, but are to be filled, THEN moved to the pick up are ON the APPROPRIATE day ... if they are full - don't over fill them - if the WRONG stuff gets put in the recycling bin and you get a notice don't complain that the City erred ... AND if the wind blows them over because they were sitting out when they should be tucked in next to your house, garage or shed - don't whine that the city is responsible for theIRRESPONSIBLE behaviour of yourself or your neighbours.  
 
The system is not perfect, but if people follow it properly, the problems (with the exception of theft) would be minimized ... as for multi-unit dwellings - they ARE business enterprises, and the owners should consider a large bin, or ensuring the individual tenants are responsible for their OWN rolling bins ...  
 

Magic

6/12/2009 10:27:51 AM
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I love the new bins!

and feel it is the best thing the city has ever done.  
 
I've used the compost container and have seen beautiful dirt result from rotten fruits, etc. placed in it. And there is no smell at all with it.  
 
I place which ever bin requires emptying on the designated day and pick it up immediately after. Don't leave it to wobble around or, worse, fall over.  
 
Empty bins will fall over due to the uneven back alley they are placed in and their shape.  
 
Oh and the biggest bonus is the amount of recycling happening throughout the city! I truly hope we all realize how fortunate we are to not live in a city where animals eat trash and people become ill from trash overload.  
 
The amount of trash I toss out has lessened a lot due my constant recycling of containers. For this I thank the City.  
 
Thank you, guys! Job well done.

theoldgunner

6/12/2009 10:38:46 AM
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I was on the fence

but now a fan of the new program. We are doing a much better job of recycling.  
 
It is easier to haul these bins rather than on huge one.  
 
There might be better solutions for apartments sure. If they want to change to a commercial waste firm go ahead. It is their option.

daisychain

6/12/2009 10:53:39 AM
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Love em'

As a home owner, I realize we are in a different situation than an apartment or condo complex, but I really like the new system. Fill them up, roll them to the curb. Easy. Like the City has asked, we as a family of 3 we only put our bins out when they are full, usually every 2nd or 3rd week, and the recycle bin tends to fill up first.

itsalwaysunny

6/12/2009 11:49:20 AM
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HA

I HATE THESE BINS! They are rarely set up-right after they have been dumped. Often they fall right where I need to pull my car into my parking spot and since we don't use them anymore I have no idea where to take them after I have to set them upright. My elderly neighbour cannot drag hers outside AND they do not fit between her car and shed so she has to actually move her car for us to take out her bins! We have bags of trash all over our back lane and even more loose trash. It must be nice to be part of the elite population that these bins were designed for!

ICYMI

6/12/2009 12:18:29 PM
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. .

  
anknmn said "The mistake made by the city in this is ASSUMING (clearly erroneously) that Brandonites will do several things ...  
 
1)They will READ the instuctions on the PROPER procedure to use the aforementioned bins ...  
 
2) They will USE the bins properly  
 
3) They will move the bins to and from their homes as needed.  
 
The problems mentioned in this thread are NOT the fault of the City or its employees - the fault is people (caretakers and landlords included) failing to follow the procedure laid out for the bins. The rolling bins are not to be left in the alley way, or the parking lot, but are to be filled, THEN moved to the pick up are ON the APPROPRIATE day ... if they are full - don't over fill them - if the WRONG stuff gets put in the recycling bin and you get a notice don't complain that the City erred ... AND if the wind blows them over because they were sitting out when they should be tucked in next to your house, garage or shed - don't whine that the city is responsible for theIRRESPONSIBLE behaviour of yourself or your neighbours.  
 
The system is not perfect, but if people follow it properly, the problems (with the exception of theft) would be minimized ... as for multi-unit dwellings - they ARE business enterprises, and the owners should consider a large bin, or ensuring the individual tenants are responsible for their OWN rolling bins ...  
 
"

End thread /

fargobob

6/12/2009 12:31:46 PM
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anknmn

  
anknmn said "The mistake made by the city in this is ASSUMING (clearly erroneously) that Brandonites will do several things ...  
 
1)They will READ the instuctions on the PROPER procedure to use the aforementioned bins ...  
 
2) They will USE the bins properly  
 
3) They will move the bins to and from their homes as needed.  
 
The problems mentioned in this thread are NOT the fault of the City or its employees - the fault is people (caretakers and landlords included) failing to follow the procedure laid out for the bins. The rolling bins are not to be left in the alley way, or the parking lot, but are to be filled, THEN moved to the pick up are ON the APPROPRIATE day ... if they are full - don't over fill them - if the WRONG stuff gets put in the recycling bin and you get a notice don't complain that the City erred ... AND if the wind blows them over because they were sitting out when they should be tucked in next to your house, garage or shed - don't whine that the city is responsible for theIRRESPONSIBLE behaviour of yourself or your neighbours.  
 
The system is not perfect, but if people follow it properly, the problems (with the exception of theft) would be minimized ... as for multi-unit dwellings - they ARE business enterprises, and the owners should consider a large bin, or ensuring the individual tenants are responsible for their OWN rolling bins ...  
 
"

Very well stated, and I agree. With all but a few exceptions, this system should work well, IF the people putting stuff in the bins pay just a little bit of attention.  
 
Do I like dragging the bins back and forth from the yard to the street? No, but I don't have to do it very often and even in the winter it's not that bad.  
 
I did have a bit of a laugh the other day, I saw someone pushing a blue covered bin down the street and wondered why. A few minutes later on my return trip I saw this person unloading empties at a beer vender. I was laughing because he WAS using a recycling bin for the job.

 
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