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I understand and don't doubt the benefits to quitting smoking and taking up vaping. Vaping has a lot of cool flavours and has attracted a large amount of teenagers that weren't smoking. Is it something to be concerned about with little research on long term effects? Thoughts?

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pinkflamingos said "It's tough to say because it's a relatively new thing. There hasn't been enough long term studies to know if it effects life span or cancer the way smoking does. I've seen speculation that it is up to 90-95% safer than smoking. But it is of course better to just not smoke/vape at all. It's still nicotine, still harmful.     Much like cigarettes, teens have picked it up for the aesthetic value/cool factor rather than considering the long term consequences. Hopefully they ditch it once they grow up. "

Vaping is by no means new. It has been around since the early 60's. Just wasn't as commercialized until a few years ago. Even without the studies it doesn't take much to realize it is a lot safer than real cigarettes.  
 
Nicotine is not harmful. It can be addicting but it wont harm you. Its a stimulant and its used in many other ways then just smoking. Its the other couple hundred chemicals in cigarettes that will likely cause more harm.

Ms.Daisy said "    pinkflamingos said "It's tough to say because it's a relatively new thing. There hasn't been enough long term studies to know if it effects life span or cancer the way smoking does. I've seen speculation that it is up to 90-95% safer than smoking. But it is of course better to just not smoke/vape at all. It's still nicotine, still harmful.     Much like cigarettes, teens have picked it up for the aesthetic value/cool factor rather than considering the long term consequences. Hopefully they ditch it once they grow up. " Vaping is by no means new. It has been around since the early 60's. Just wasn't as commercialized until a few years ago. Even without the studies it doesn't take much to realize it is a lot safer than real cigarettes.     Nicotine is not harmful. It can be addicting but it wont harm you. Its a stimulant and its used in many other ways then just smoking. Its the other couple hundred chemicals in cigarettes that will likely cause more harm. "

One of Canada's largest vape distributors and retailers was actually founded by a renowned heart surgeon. This doctor was featured on CBC and is a huge advocate for vapes and e-cigs. I strongly recommend you watch CBC's story on it if you have questions on the dangers of vaping.

GhOsTID said "    Ms.Daisy said "    pinkflamingos said "It's tough to say because it's a relatively new thing. There hasn't been enough long term studies to know if it effects life span or cancer the way smoking does. I've seen speculation that it is up to 90-95% safer than smoking. But it is of course better to just not smoke/vape at all. It's still nicotine, still harmful.     Much like cigarettes, teens have picked it up for the aesthetic value/cool factor rather than considering the long term consequences. Hopefully they ditch it once they grow up. " Vaping is by no means new. It has been around since the early 60's. Just wasn't as commercialized until a few years ago. Even without the studies it doesn't take much to realize it is a lot safer than real cigarettes.     Nicotine is not harmful. It can be addicting but it wont harm you. Its a stimulant and its used in many other ways then just smoking. Its the other couple hundred chemicals in cigarettes that will likely cause more harm. " Since when is nicotine not harmful? It has shown to have positive effects(nootropic) in some applications but I don't recall anything pointing to it being non harmful. It's toxic and a poison.     https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4363846/ "

The juices are available with no nicotine..and here's an interesting article from Cancer Research UK: http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2018/01/30/headlines-saying-vaping-might-cause-cancer-are-wildly-misleading/

GhOsTID said "    Ms.Daisy said "    pinkflamingos said "It's tough to say because it's a relatively new thing. There hasn't been enough long term studies to know if it effects life span or cancer the way smoking does. I've seen speculation that it is up to 90-95% safer than smoking. But it is of course better to just not smoke/vape at all. It's still nicotine, still harmful.     Much like cigarettes, teens have picked it up for the aesthetic value/cool factor rather than considering the long term consequences. Hopefully they ditch it once they grow up. " Vaping is by no means new. It has been around since the early 60's. Just wasn't as commercialized until a few years ago. Even without the studies it doesn't take much to realize it is a lot safer than real cigarettes.     Nicotine is not harmful. It can be addicting but it wont harm you. Its a stimulant and its used in many other ways then just smoking. Its the other couple hundred chemicals in cigarettes that will likely cause more harm. " Since when is nicotine not harmful? It has shown to have positive effects(nootropic) in some applications but I don't recall anything pointing to it being non harmful. It's toxic and a poison.     https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4363846/ "

It would be foolish to suggest that nicotine is good for the body, but there’s no denying the fact that, in its pure form, it’s far less dangerous than we’ve been led to believe. Its effects can be compared to those of caffeine mildly stimulating, yes, but by no means life threatening.  
 
Nicotine got a pretty bad reputation because it was always observed through the lens of smoking. Very few studies have endeavored to find out how nicotine, in and of itself, affects the human body. However, times are changing and researchers are looking into whether nicotine could be used to treat certain medical conditions.  
 
I suppose if you were to drink a bottle of pure nicotine it would kill you. Also putting it in direct contact with the skin would not be fun. For most adults however the amount that is being ingested by smoking or vaping is not going to cause harm other then addiction.

I don't get and don't quote me on it but when I was younger I remember they were trying to ban any and all flavored cigars,papers,wraps etc and the reason being it was to appealing to kids smoking.so Like I said don't quote me but how is this any better?

They are trying to put bans on flavoured juice I just don’t think the bill has passed yet. I would have to go through all of Theravape’s posts to find the article. They have actually gone to the legislature in Winnipeg to help promote vaping and talk about harm reduction with over 300 pages of information about vaping. The other thing about vaping is most reputable companies test their juice to make sure it’s with in safe levels for vaping.  
 
All ejuice is made out of is food grade propylene glycol (same ingredient in most products out there including asthma inhalers). Food grade vegetable glycerin and nicotine. Also note not all ejuice is made with nicotine either. You can get nicotine free.  
 
I vape but I made the switch to help ease the symptoms of a nicotine addiction I formed for myself by smoking at a young age. I can also say I have been able to successfully reduce how much nicotine I need in my ejuice.  
 
As a vaper it actually does annoy me to see people who have never smoked a day in their life pick this up as a hobby because they think it’s cool. But sadly that’s what happens when things become commercialized.