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Google maps shows it is 2 km from Rosser to Kirkcaldy. According to http://www.unitarium.com/speed-calculator Driving a steady 70 kph will take 1 minute and 43 seconds, at 60 kph 2 minutes. at 50 kph 2 minutes and 24 seconds. Is it worth getting all excited over, taking a risk or doing something stupid over a few seconds, not to mention the speeding ticket.

I think the problem more lies in why can't it be 70 again even if work needed to be done. Look at Hwy 10 north. I have driven many times through there as a construction zone but they raised the speed to 100 in areas, or when they are not working they turn the 60km speed signs. Same I have seen around the Winnipeg perimeter highway. When not physically there working they allow higher speeds. This here is just an easy money ticket for police. I have seen them clocking people as they come over the bridge.

floyd2 said "Google maps shows it is 2 km from Rosser to Kirkcaldy. According to http://www.unitarium.com/speed-calculator Driving a steady 70 kph will take 1 minute and 43 seconds, at 60 kph 2 minutes. at 50 kph 2 minutes and 24 seconds. Is it worth getting all excited over, taking a risk or doing something stupid over a few seconds, not to mention the speeding ticket. "

I posted earlier, time is money. The 50km/hr presently posted has been under "false pretense" as there has been no construction going on in that areaxfor 3 weeks or so. When a working person has to drive tgat route 3,4 or 5 times a day, wasted time adds up. A mere 20km/hr slower may only mean seconds lost or maybe not. Slower speeds often results in a missed "green" traffic light. So, take your 30 seconds lost and add another minute to it for the lost light. Now in the matter of a day a worker may lose 10-15 min from work just because of the reduced speed limit which is in place under false pretense! When work is going on then put the 50km/hr back up. No big deal for them. Probably add another 10 min to their day. As it stands now, a worker could lose 15 min of production a day because of this nonsense. Multiply that by 50 workers and we're now talking about multiple hours lost because of the unnecessary speed reduction zone!

What does it mater if 20 people are working at the site or just 3 people, it’s still a construction site.

loeog said "What does it mater if 20 people are working at the site or just 3 people, it’s still a construction site. "

Really don't know what you're talking about when you write "20 or 3 workers". Reality is "No workers", and by the sounds of posters here, probably "zero" workers in this so called "construction zone" till the spring. So, where you get you're 20 or 3 workers???? This thread wouldn't exist if there were workers there!

70`s guy said "    floyd2 said "Google maps shows it is 2 km from Rosser to Kirkcaldy. According to http://www.unitarium.com/speed-calculator Driving a steady 70 kph will take 1 minute and 43 seconds, at 60 kph 2 minutes. at 50 kph 2 minutes and 24 seconds. Is it worth getting all excited over, taking a risk or doing something stupid over a few seconds, not to mention the speeding ticket. " I posted earlier, time is money. The 50km/hr presently posted has been under "false pretense" as there has been no construction going on in that areaxfor 3 weeks or so. When a working person has to drive tgat route 3,4 or 5 times a day, wasted time adds up. A mere 20km/hr slower may only mean seconds lost or maybe not. Slower speeds often results in a missed "green" traffic light. So, take your 30 seconds lost and add another minute to it for the lost light. Now in the matter of a day a worker may lose 10-15 min from work just because of the reduced speed limit which is in place under false pretense! When work is going on then put the 50km/hr back up. No big deal for them. Probably add another 10 min to their day. As it stands now, a worker could lose 15 min of production a day because of this nonsense. Multiply that by 50 workers and we're now talking about multiple hours lost because of the unnecessary speed reduction zone! "

Your worker knows it is there, so he adjusts his schedule somewhat - time management.  
 
I was always at work at least 15 minutes early, not walking in the door the minute I am supposed to be there.  
 
You never know if you will have to wait for a train, you do know you have to go slower there and you never know if you are going to hit the green lights. Someone ahead of you could be going slower.  
 
Always leave yourself time.

Brenda.. said "    70`s guy said "    floyd2 said "Google maps shows it is 2 km from Rosser to Kirkcaldy. According to http://www.unitarium.com/speed-calculator Driving a steady 70 kph will take 1 minute and 43 seconds, at 60 kph 2 minutes. at 50 kph 2 minutes and 24 seconds. Is it worth getting all excited over, taking a risk or doing something stupid over a few seconds, not to mention the speeding ticket. " I posted earlier, time is money. The 50km/hr presently posted has been under "false pretense" as there has been no construction going on in that areaxfor 3 weeks or so. When a working person has to drive tgat route 3,4 or 5 times a day, wasted time adds up. A mere 20km/hr slower may only mean seconds lost or maybe not. Slower speeds often results in a missed "green" traffic light. So, take your 30 seconds lost and add another minute to it for the lost light. Now in the matter of a day a worker may lose 10-15 min from work just because of the reduced speed limit which is in place under false pretense! When work is going on then put the 50km/hr back up. No big deal for them. Probably add another 10 min to their day. As it stands now, a worker could lose 15 min of production a day because of this nonsense. Multiply that by 50 workers and we're now talking about multiple hours lost because of the unnecessary speed reduction zone! " Your worker knows it is there, so he adjusts his schedule somewhat - time management.     I was always at work at least 15 minutes early, not walking in the door the minute I am supposed to be there.     You never know if you will have to wait for a train, you do know you have to go slower there and you never know if you are going to hit the green lights. Someone ahead of you could be going slower.     Always leave yourself time. "

Totally get that Brenda. What I'm reffering to are people tgat have to move during the day to get work done.ie: repair people doing house calls, Contractors, plumbers, electricians, etc, etc. The 50 km/hr unecessarily negatively affects their time management and in those businesses, time is money. Not everyone has an office job or is retired where this 50km/hr inconvenience is really not an inconvenience. All I'm saying is that when work is being done that the signs should absolutely be up, but on the other hand, no work till the spring is no reason to leave the "double speed fines" and "constryction zone" signs up. I think it's probably just left in place to be a cash cow.

70`s guy said "    Brenda.. said "    70`s guy said "    floyd2 said "Google maps shows it is 2 km from Rosser to Kirkcaldy. According to http://www.unitarium.com/speed-calculator Driving a steady 70 kph will take 1 minute and 43 seconds, at 60 kph 2 minutes. at 50 kph 2 minutes and 24 seconds. Is it worth getting all excited over, taking a risk or doing something stupid over a few seconds, not to mention the speeding ticket. " I posted earlier, time is money. The 50km/hr presently posted has been under "false pretense" as there has been no construction going on in that areaxfor 3 weeks or so. When a working person has to drive tgat route 3,4 or 5 times a day, wasted time adds up. A mere 20km/hr slower may only mean seconds lost or maybe not. Slower speeds often results in a missed "green" traffic light. So, take your 30 seconds lost and add another minute to it for the lost light. Now in the matter of a day a worker may lose 10-15 min from work just because of the reduced speed limit which is in place under false pretense! When work is going on then put the 50km/hr back up. No big deal for them. Probably add another 10 min to their day. As it stands now, a worker could lose 15 min of production a day because of this nonsense. Multiply that by 50 workers and we're now talking about multiple hours lost because of the unnecessary speed reduction zone! " Your worker knows it is there, so he adjusts his schedule somewhat - time management.     I was always at work at least 15 minutes early, not walking in the door the minute I am supposed to be there.     You never know if you will have to wait for a train, you do know you have to go slower there and you never know if you are going to hit the green lights. Someone ahead of you could be going slower.     Always leave yourself time. " Totally get that Brenda. What I'm reffering to are people tgat have to move during the day to get work done.ie: repair people doing house calls, Contractors, plumbers, electricians, etc, etc. The 50 km/hr unecessarily negatively affects their time management and in those businesses, time is money. Not everyone has an office job or is retired where this 50km/hr inconvenience is really not an inconvenience. All I'm saying is that when work is being done that the signs should absolutely be up, but on the other hand, no work till the spring is no reason to leave the "double speed fines" and "constryction zone" signs up. I think it's probably just left in place to be a cash cow. "

they are there - does not look like they will be leaving soon.  
 
Maybe just take 18th Street.

Brenda.. said "    70`s guy said "    Brenda.. said "    70`s guy said "    floyd2 said "Google maps shows it is 2 km from Rosser to Kirkcaldy. According to http://www.unitarium.com/speed-calculator Driving a steady 70 kph will take 1 minute and 43 seconds, at 60 kph 2 minutes. at 50 kph 2 minutes and 24 seconds. Is it worth getting all excited over, taking a risk or doing something stupid over a few seconds, not to mention the speeding ticket. " I posted earlier, time is money. The 50km/hr presently posted has been under "false pretense" as there has been no construction going on in that areaxfor 3 weeks or so. When a working person has to drive tgat route 3,4 or 5 times a day, wasted time adds up. A mere 20km/hr slower may only mean seconds lost or maybe not. Slower speeds often results in a missed "green" traffic light. So, take your 30 seconds lost and add another minute to it for the lost light. Now in the matter of a day a worker may lose 10-15 min from work just because of the reduced speed limit which is in place under false pretense! When work is going on then put the 50km/hr back up. No big deal for them. Probably add another 10 min to their day. As it stands now, a worker could lose 15 min of production a day because of this nonsense. Multiply that by 50 workers and we're now talking about multiple hours lost because of the unnecessary speed reduction zone! " Your worker knows it is there, so he adjusts his schedule somewhat - time management.     I was always at work at least 15 minutes early, not walking in the door the minute I am supposed to be there.     You never know if you will have to wait for a train, you do know you have to go slower there and you never know if you are going to hit the green lights. Someone ahead of you could be going slower.     Always leave yourself time. " Totally get that Brenda. What I'm reffering to are people tgat have to move during the day to get work done.ie: repair people doing house calls, Contractors, plumbers, electricians, etc, etc. The 50 km/hr unecessarily negatively affects their time management and in those businesses, time is money. Not everyone has an office job or is retired where this 50km/hr inconvenience is really not an inconvenience. All I'm saying is that when work is being done that the signs should absolutely be up, but on the other hand, no work till the spring is no reason to leave the "double speed fines" and "constryction zone" signs up. I think it's probably just left in place to be a cash cow. " they are there - does not look like they will be leaving soon.     Maybe just take 18th Street. "

18th street traffic runs at 30 to 40 km/hr. It's almost a "parking lot" at times, lol!

How many of these comments are by engineers that know the full story on the state of the project?  
 
It is still a construction zone with safety hazards that you may not understand. Trust the qualified engineers that have determined that 50 is the maximum speed until it is warm enough to finish the work needed to make it safe.  
 
If that extra 20 seconds is so valuable, leave earlier.

katwalk1909 said "How many of these comments are by engineers that know the full story on the state of the project?     It is still a construction zone with safety hazards that you may not understand. Trust the qualified engineers that have determined that 50 is the maximum speed until it is warm enough to finish the work needed to make it safe.     If that extra 20 seconds is so valuable, leave earlier. "

Is not posted because of safety hazzards existing for the vehicles. It is there to protect the workers on site. However, without any workers on site for weeks now one can only assume that the "construction zone", "double speed fines", and "50 km/hr" posted signs are simply in place as a "speed trap" and "cash cow" for the government until the spring when the work resumes and the signs become legitimate once more. All I'm saying is tgat the signs shoukd be there when work is ongoing, but when the work is stalled for months like now then the signs shoukd come down as there are no workers to protect with a 50 km/hr zone. Example being a "school zone" has a 30km/hr zone, but it's not in effect during the summer months as school is out and that makes sense. 1st street bridge at the moment has no work ongoing and has a reduced speed in effect for no good reason.

Recall that the former 1st street bridge had a speed limit of 50km/h. The 70km/h zone was north of the bridge.  
 
Don't expect nor assume that the new bridge(s) will have a speed limit of 70km/h. Apparently, Brandon drivers aren't capable of driving faster over any of our bridges.  
 
Again, a fantastic spot for a speed trap, coming off the bridge on the north side, gradually speeding up. It ain't 70km/h until you reach the sign that says "70 km/h".  
 
And don't say that the car was just gradually going faster on its own, because then you could have an additional charge of undue care/control of your vehicle, in addition to speeding.

Is still 50..my god people why is it so damn hard to follow the signs..there are soooo many people going 60-70 as soon as they are off the bridge and going around the curve toward the bridge going south..There was a big black truck going south towards the bridge. There was a car in front of him going 50 like posted..he Could not get into the other southbound lane as the other vehicles were going 50...as soon as he was able to make a break for it he was going 60-70 kms to the other side of the bridge..when he had to stop at the red light and it turned green he put the peddle to the metal and continued to go about 60kms..I tried to get the licence plate number but couldn''t as he was going to faSt...why the hell can''t some people just for. Low the speed limits...  
 
Edited by happynana, 2018-01-08 17:02:23

2 years of bridge construction, you would think employees and employers would be accustom to the reduced speed and have adjusted accordingly.

I agree

katwalk1909 said "How many of these comments are by engineers that know the full story on the state of the project?     It is still a construction zone with safety hazards that you may not understand. Trust the qualified engineers that have determined that 50 is the maximum speed until it is warm enough to finish the work needed to make it safe.     If that extra 20 seconds is so valuable, leave earlier. "

This is where maybe the city and/or province could give the drivers of the area a clue as to what is going on. Give residents a heads up on things we may not understand because then maybe some of us would/could understand.  
 
There''s nothing quite like giving the community information surrounding an issue that concerns us.  
 
There is nothing wrong with questioning why any government is doing something that affects taxpayers. In fact, more people should do it more often.  
 
Trust. OMG.  
 
70s guy, I hear ya.  
 
Edited by Hackeda, 2018-01-08 18:41:57

that has decided to keep traffic slow, just because he can. Yes there is work to do in the spring so I get the Construction zones signs, but it is a long way before you get to the bridge and a long time to spring. It would be too easy to cover the reduced speed signs, leave the construction zone sign which puts the road at the natural 70 k but not a nickel over as you will still get a construction zone speed ticket at 75 k.  
then in spring uncover the reduced to 50 k.. too easy.  
 
the local work crew is likely just following orders from higher up.  
 
chatting to RCMP last year about construction speed zones and he said there are numerous ones all the time that are left up even though there is no work going on, no dangerous spots and no workers insight they can and will still give you a ticket.

Reply from City of Brandon:  
As 1st Street is an extension of a provincial highway, it remains the prerogative of the provincial government to set speed limits on its various sections. Manitoba Infrastructure said that it needs to complete some repairs to cable guardrails along 1st Street prior to restoring the speed limit back to 70 km/hr. They expect these repairs will be completed within the next few weeks. Therefore, the reduced speed limit remains in place and under the purview of the provincial government.

JillandJacks said "Reply from City of Brandon:   As 1st Street is an extension of a provincial highway, it remains the prerogative of the provincial government to set speed limits on its various sections. Manitoba Infrastructure said that it needs to complete some repairs to cable guardrails along 1st Street prior to restoring the speed limit back to 70 km/hr. They expect these repairs will be completed within the next few weeks. Therefore, the reduced speed limit remains in place and under the purview of the provincial government. "

Only a few more weeks. Wonderfull news!

JillandJacks said "Reply from City of Brandon:   As 1st Street is an extension of a provincial highway, it remains the prerogative of the provincial government to set speed limits on its various sections. Manitoba Infrastructure said that it needs to complete some repairs to cable guardrails along 1st Street prior to restoring the speed limit back to 70 km/hr. They expect these repairs will be completed within the next few weeks. Therefore, the reduced speed limit remains in place and under the purview of the provincial government. "

I seriously don't understand why so many people are so passionately upset about this. I get the "time is money" argument. Yeah, we all want to get where we're going faster than we're allowed to. But do the actual math. The old 70 zone didn't start until after the bridge. So the actual distance that 70 could be restored to is less than 1 km. If you could go 70 for a whole km vs 50, you would save about 20 seconds. I don't know what everyone's time is worth, but 20 seconds makes literally no difference in anybody's day, except the feeling that you wish you were going faster. And as a recent post said, it's about the guard rails being repaired. So it's a SAFETY issue (at least officially). Sure, we could go faster, but IF something happened, guard rails to provide protection at 70 km/hr aren't in place. I'll take 20 seconds for safety every day, thanks.

I think doing the enter reduced speed area at 50 takes 20 seconds. The total time difference between doing 50 and 70 is only a couple of seconds more.

« Posted by 70`s guy, 1/5/2018 8:39:14 PM  
Has been "zero" work there for weeks and it''s just pure laziness on someone''s part to leave the signs up in both directtions. Is it too much to ask to remove the signs and the odd day they do come back to work to out up the signs again in the area that they will be working? Roads are built to move vehicles as efficiently as possible. This, leaving the signs up for god knows how long because work will continue at some point is ridiculous. Are we waiting for lines to be painted? If so, the "construction" signs are up till May at least! » not lazy, just policy. Covers corporate a$$ against any liability that could be brought against them for not being ‘completely’ done. How many minutes will you loose in your day by driving 30 km slower for 5 minutes?

Just drove through there going northbound and just north of the new bridges, there is a 70 km/h sign now. Not sure about southbound though.

South bound is still 50 km/h. Northbound is back at 70 km/h.

I don't see why everyone is making this into such a big deal. The sign says what it says. The time difference between a small strip of road being 70 to 50 is so minute that you blink and it's basically over. People in this city act like it takes an hour to get from end to end and not 15 minutes. If time is a problem for you, perhaps a better solution is to leave sooner.

I traveled it 3 times today.  
I saved enough time to type this.

North Bound on Friday was up to 70kph at the north end of the bridge. Here is something to consider. At 50 kilometers per hour, it takes one minute twelve seconds to drive 1000 meters. At 70 kph, it takes 51 seconds. The speed reduction zone was much less than one 1000 meters. Are we all so impatient that we need to complain about 21 seconds? I think it just gives a person 21 seconds more to savour that Tim Horton's coffee.

On the bridge it has always been 50k, there is no work being done on the north side of the bridge so I don’t see why the speed limit cannot go back to 70.

the signs have been changed north side of the bridge. posted limit is now 70 kms. the bridge itself has always been 50 kms.

Should make the speed demons happy..