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With clocks going back an hour on Sunday as Daylight Saving Time ends. Just want to show why we need DST in Manitoba. Using the sunrise and sunset times for the Solstices (June 21 and December 21) as reference.  
 
June 21 Sunrise 5:30am DST and sets at 9:50pm DST  
Dec 21 Sunrise 8:30am CST and sets at 4:40pm CST  
 
Now if we were to get rid of DST, on June 21 the Sun would rise at 4:30am and set at 8:50pm. And that's for our longest day of the year. Since most of us enjoy activities in the evening weather it be sports, camping, etc., losing an hour will really hurt those activities and businesses that rely on evening traffic.  
 
Now if we were to move into August it gets worse, the sunsets at roughly 8:30pm DST, if we were to get rid of DST, that would mean the sunsets at 7:30pm in August! For anyone who enjoys evening outdoor activies, loosing DST will really hurt then. Think most would rather have longer evenings than earlier mornings. On the other hand. if we were to go DST year round would mean in December the Sun would rise at 9:30am and set at 5:40pm.  
 
Just my thoughts and things to consider. I have no problem changing the clocks twice a year. It really comes down to Manitoba's location in relation to the standard time zone. Saskatchewan can get away with not having DST because of their location further to the west.  
 
And for another reference in Winnipeg on June 21, the Sun rises at 5:20am and sets at 9:41pm. About a 10 minute difference between Brandon and Winnipeg.  
 
The times come from  
https://www.timeanddate.com/ W ->

we could just all go to Universal Coordinate Time, also known as Greenwich Time, Zulu time. So right now it would be Friday 00:28am

Or we could just leave it the way it is. If y’all want to live by whatever “time” you want to call it. We would all be getting up at the same time and going to bed way too late together.... at least this way is a universal way to keep get off work at five like everywhere else.  
Change one thing to give yourselves more things to complain about. Leave it alone. Drop it. Go to work get a hobby put the phone down. Better your life instead of messing with mine.

that's what I'm getting. Just leave Daylight Saving Time alone. I see more benefits than inconvieniences.

Lets not switch back on Sunday, lets just stay on DST and enjoy the extra daylight.

during the winter there will be an extra hour of darkness in the morning. The Sun won't be rising till after 9 am in December.

Yes but it will also set an hour later, giving us some daylight to use after work.

In fact BC is tabling legislation to stick to permanent daylight savings time right now.  
 
I don't see a downside, and there is a significant health advantage.  
 
Yes, the sun will be rising later at the winter solstice. Most people are going about their business in the dark starting their days then anyways. But later darkness in the afternoon will greatly improve traffic situations as people end their work days.  
 
The electricity savings is a wash, it might have been true in WWI when factories were illuminated by glass windows. It seems mostly it was a public relations / propaganda effort even then.  
 
There is a significant risk of death associated with the time changes. Traffic fatalities and heart attacks increase after a time change for about 2 weeks.  
 
And anyone with livestock hates the time change, especially dairy, the cattle are very time aware / governed.  
 
So I say let's stop changing, and stay on DST year round.

Our summers are short enough, losing an extra hour of daylight would only make them feel shorter. For the one week in spring of sleepiness I say its well work it. One other option could be to set our time at CST + 30 minutes. It might sound weird to some but Newfoundland is 2.5 hours ahead of Manitoba so a 30 minute permanent 30 minute difference from Saskatchewan isn’t crazy. Just food for thought.  
 
Although I still vote to keep the current system.

I lived in Saskatchewan for 11 years where the clocks never change. Fall back and spring forward are hard on people. It takes me a month to adjust. Not worth it.

There aren't any benefits to Daylight Savings Time....  
 
Also, start the school day later. It's a public health issue.

Let’s just stay on the time right now and call it a day.  
 
Also used to live in SK and regardless of when the sun comes up or go down life carried on. I don’t ever remember thinking “oh the sun goes down so early”.  
 
I find the older I get the more this time change bothers me. It takes forever to readjust our daily schedules.

People seem to forget when comparing Saskatchewan to Manitoba about the time the sun goes down is that Saskatchewan is farther west so compared to Manitoba the sun does rise and set later there, so in the summertime there is daylight to do things in the evening.  
Question . On June 23 rd what time does the sun rise and set in Moose Jaw, not the eastern half or western half , but close to the center of the province.

Love the long daylight evenings....makes the winter somewhat tolerable.

Love the long daylight evenings....makes the winter somewhat tolerable.

I literally lived 5 minutes to the MB border so I doubt the time the sun goes up and down in Manitoba was any different than those 10 minutes from me. I worked in SK and hubby drove to his job in MB daily. It was so annoying that MB time kept changing

This is just my opinion but if I had a vote, I would have the clocks stay the same all year round and would not care whether in the forward or backward position. While changing actual clocks is a pain but manageable, I believe that everyone having to shift their internal clock twice a year creates a week or two of adjustment time that may pose safety risks.

Only reason no time change works in Sask is because pretty much the entire province should be on Mountain time.  
 
Look in the States, the Mountain time zone reaches almost to Hwy 83 in spots.

I genuinely dont notice the time change affecting me at all.  
 
In a regular night I vary from 6 - 9 hours of sleep and it works for me. Personally I'd 100% rather having the light longer in the summer.  
 
I can do things outdoors in the summer until 10 PM or just after, if its light in the evening during winter... i cant do anything worth doing in my mind because of the frigid cold, mountains of snow, limited road use among other things.  
 
Stay the way it is is my vote if there ever was one!

I thought hearing bc was fighting this because they found it annoying to change their clocks was hysterical .. but reading people think there may be health risks is even funnier lol no ones died yet for fallin back or springing forward, falling off a stool getting to the clock to change it perhaps could cause a health risk I suppose lolololol so many things happening in our country on the daily and this is what people get annoyed over haaaahaaahaaa

Please read my complete comment

Just because I hate the argument that it would get dark too early...  
 
Orlando Florida - June 21 sunrise 6:28am sunset 8:26pm  
Orlando Florida December 21 sunrise 7:13am sunset 5:33pm  
 
There all places in the world that people pay huge money to visit that the sun naturally sets before 9am even on the longest day of the year and it hasn't killed them.

There is a rise in accidents in spring and fall when we change time and for many people it takes days for our body's natural clock to reset.  
 
Pick one or the other - standard time or DST and stick with it year round.

Bill 205 did not pass second reading and is dead.  
 
The transcript of how it was defeated.  
https://www.gov.mb.ca/legislature/hansard/41st_4th/vol_36a/h36a.html?fbclid=IwAR0zgfb7JnrHh3idV44kNxeh_J1CAOtN2CHalx63tK9KdyLv_Q-hxbB02qg

My father can remember when Great Britain tested not changing the clocks, I think that it was a three year trial and it was many years ago. He said that it was awful, was too dark in the mornings and a whole bunch of vehicle accidents. Did not work out at all. Britain soon went back to the time change twice a year and it has remained that way ever since. Besides we need the hour difference in the summer. If we break down during harvest the dealerships in Moosomin are open for an extra hour LOL!

I am glad you got a laugh out of my genuine concern. Perhaps the correlation between time changes, traffic accident and heart attacks is hilarious as well.  
 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/end-of-daylight-saving-time-2015-6-eye-opening-facts-1.1333086  
 
Please note that I used the term correlation and not causation as there are other factors at play. These are still interesting statistics.

Yeah, I was about to mention much the same. I don't find workplace fatalities, traffic accidents, heart attacks or other accidental injury or deaths so funny, especially when it serves no good purpose to uspet people's circadian rhythm.  
 
Ha ha, lol lol...

Toronto mayor John Tory was making a statement and behind him was a sign stating that there is a 30% increase in pedestrian/vehicle accidents. due to the time change. I don't mind DST but I do realize lots of people are affected by it.  
Not too funny is it?  
 
Edited by Johnbisonbear, 2019-11-01 21:26:09

Oh my goodness, do any of you even have children?  
 
Ok yah sure there is increased risk of heart attacks etc after switching the clocks. People can die.  
 
But it is also absolute chaos for weeks for those with children. I’m sure I’m not the only parent in our province. It’s a ripple effect - if my kids aren’t sleeping enough because of time switch, I am sleepy too, more dangerous on the road, do worse at my job, etc. That affects everyone around me.

This bill was killed and will now become, that is good news for me. I do not have any problem with the time changes and never did even as a kid. If we had to stay on one time year round then I would vote to choose DST. Better to have dark mornings in winter than dark evenings in summer.