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Straw-man arguments abound  
 
The point of the discussion is not about the absolute price of gas in Brandon, or anywhere. It's about the price of gas in Brandon compared to the cost of gas to our neighbors. Which is always always to Brandon's disadvantage. Except for rare exceptions, usually when there's some type of provincial or national attention to some local event, and that lasts only as long as the event.  
 
Whenever I can, I buy gas in Ninette, or Glenboro, or Austin, or Dauphin, or Winnipeg. Almost always cheaper than Brandon.  
 
It's a just a few bucks, but I resent being taken advantage of.  
 
 

CKLQ link with a bit of info on what's been being the price increase. Also quotes a Gasbuddy analyst as saying that he predicts prices will drop on Sunday on Monday:  
http://www.cklq.com/index.php?id=62&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=10325&cHash=627fdfb731c79d5e0e9e1ff839dcf965  

Guess the analyst from Gasbuddy was wrong price is probably going to go up again as some stations in Winnipeg are up to 84.9

at good old Petro Canada on 26th and shell on 18th. That's not to bad only about a $1 increase per gallon in the last week and a half. Really no reason for that size of an increase other than they can do whatever they want.  
 
Also as far as Dan McTeague the Gasbuddy guy he doesn't have any more clue where prices are going than anybody on the street.  
 
Also interesting that down in Mesa Arizona it's at $0.46 CDN a litre and yeah I know before somebody says it "we aren't in Arizona".  
 
 
 
Edited by Reggie 2, 2016-03-02 16:02:02

What baffles me is why we no longer have any refineries.... PM Trudeau, let's get Canada working again and get those refineries built so we can process our own fuel rather than have it shipped south for pennies on the dollar.  
 
We have outsourced and sold our soul enough... Let's be self sufficient again  
 

81.9 top up at Canadian Tire just now. Not any kind of lineup to beat the jump like you might expect.  
 
As much as 69.9 looks a lot better, big picture it's something what a difference a couple years makes. We have a Ford Edge and a Prius. Prius has always been the road trip car because of mileage but we braved it and took the Edge to Calgary this past weekend. I don't think the cost to drive it round trip was much different from what it would've cost to feed the Prius for the same trip 2 years ago.

Today in the US they announced an increase in stocks for not only crude oil but also gasoline and distillates, it was also announced that rail cars are now being used for storing crude and gasoline stocks. Refineries are all ready producing summer fuels because they have a large supply of gasoline on hand.  
Much of the movement in prices could possibly be blamed on commodity traders trying to make a decent return, high risk, high return.

there's no shortage but an excess of fuel

Not sure if there just needs to be an updated, but as of about an hour ago Gasbuddy still showing a couple of holdouts at 81.9... Petro Can and Superstore. Both Provincially and Nationally the trend they're showing for the past week is a rise of between 3 and 4 cents.

The US energy department releases the amount of oil, gasoline and distillates stocks every week, and earlier this week reported that all had grown, which should result in lower prices, but it all depends if that fuel is put into the system. The refinery margins are still fairly positive and it seems that fuels that are being produced are being stored, by storing the fuel they have decided to manage supplies, I think that this move will eventually come back to bite them, unless there is an orchestrated shutdown of refineries for things to be maintained, which does happen every year.  
 
I'll include a link to a graph to show how much fuel prices have risen in the US in the last little while. Since gasoline is something that is traded between Canada and the US what happens down there affect us  
 
http://www.barchart.com/charts/futures/RBY00  
 
Don't know about other people's eyes but I have to expand the graph to see the dots, prices have moved from the 1.05 level up to 1.30.  
 
Edited by don brown, 2016-03-04 18:01:10

On the rise again quite a few stations are up to 88.9  

On 26th is 91.9  

Looking forward to the day when I can fill up with electrons in my garage, and will only have to visit smelly gas stations when taking a road trip.

ultraguy said "Looking forward to the day when I can fill up with electrons in my garage, and will only have to visit smelly gas stations when taking a road trip. "

26th street station up to 93.9 that's a 5cent/litre jump or just 221/2 cents a gallon.  
 
Reason there using this time is they are changing over to summer gas and it's more expensive. whereas in fall they changing to winter gas because of certain additives, and it's more expensive.  
 
Only real reason is "because they can".  
Oil was back down this morning so that doesn't work anymore.  
 
Edited by Reggie 2, 2016-03-31 13:49:13

Reggie 2 said "    ultraguy said "Looking forward to the day when I can fill up with electrons in my garage, and will only have to visit smelly gas stations when taking a road trip. " 26th street station up to 93.9 that's a 5cent/litre jump or just 221/2 cents a gallon.     Reason there using this time is they are changing over to summer gas and it's more expensive. whereas in fall they changing to winter gas because of certain additives, and it's more expensive.     Only real reason is "because they can".   Oil was back down this morning so that doesn't work anymore.     Edited by Reggie 2, 2016-03-31 13:49:13"

I never get too excited over the increase in gas prices at the petro on 26th and Vic. They raise their prices before anyone else does... and then usually put them back down the next day because no one else has raised them. I don't know why anyone stops there when they put up the price. I try to avoid that station as much as possible, though sometimes it's just convenient.

I honestly find it humorous! Gas went up and oil went down today. They will never learn. I wouldn't worry. They don't have the sense to raise gas prices artificially.

yellowstraw said "    Reggie 2 said "    ultraguy said "Looking forward to the day when I can fill up with electrons in my garage, and will only have to visit smelly gas stations when taking a road trip. " 26th street station up to 93.9 that's a 5cent/litre jump or just 221/2 cents a gallon.     Reason there using this time is they are changing over to summer gas and it's more expensive. whereas in fall they changing to winter gas because of certain additives, and it's more expensive.     Only real reason is "because they can".   Oil was back down this morning so that doesn't work anymore.     Edited by Reggie 2, 2016-03-31 13:49:13" I never get too excited over the increase in gas prices at the petro on 26th and Vic. They raise their prices before anyone else does... and then usually put them back down the next day because no one else has raised them. I don't know why anyone stops there when they put up the price. I try to avoid that station as much as possible, though sometimes it's just convenient. "

they put their price back down to 88.9 once everyone else raised theirs.

prices are still showing anywhere from 80.9 to 83.9. Here's hoping they don't stay at the increased price for long. Everyone hates increased prices on anything, however, it is cheaper than what we have had to pay in the past (even though these increased prices are not called for).

I'm surprised that prices have remained stable despite fires in Alberta causing production issues.

Some stations in Winnipeg are up to 105.9 according to Gasbuddy

I guess we should thank the gas companies for giving us a break 2 years ago when a barrel of oil was worth over a 100 dollars and they were only charging 1.30 for a liter of gas. Using their conversion at today's price,we should have been paying over 2.00 a liter. A barrel of West Texas oil today is priced at just under 50 dollars and they are charging a 1 a liter.

At least they waited until after the long weekend.

At 107.9 now. Not bad that is only a 60 cent a gallon jump in the last week. Good thing gas is not counted when determining inflation.

Please understand what a commodity market is before you relate cost of crude to gasoline. The price of gas is set by what the market will bear... That means refineries are making good money turning cheap crude into gas. They are not passing on the savings to the gas station.  
 
On the other hand spending an extra five bucks at the pump in the hopes that our commoditiy markets will stabilize and the dollar comes back up to par. I'm going to be faithful that crude prices and gasoline prices are correlated at least that much. This means oil patch jobs, influx of money into the economy and an overall decrease in the cost of consumer goods. Let's see that pump price rise!

Thinks gas prices are getting high again now with the price of oil being low. I wonder whats going to happen at the end of the month when MR P announces what he's going to do with carbon taxes in the budget.  
 
He wouldn't answer when somebody asked if fuel was going to be taxed more!. Chances are it is going to be, as it's an easy target. Things really won't be pretty with more price increases, and less money going in our pockets yet again due to more tax. Wasn't his election promise more money in Manitoban's pockets L.O.L.

I doubt they will be announcing any carbon pricing in their first year or two.

Yeah, I noticed that Wednesday evening the gas stations on Richmond had already jumped up but Canadian Tire & Superstore were still at 98.5, so I filled up quick at Superstore.  
week  
It is crazy how much gas prices can jump over night but they take forever to go down by that much....  
 
Edited by GeCkAmAnDeR, 2016-05-26 11:12:45

GAS PRICES IN BRANDON! 105.9 up 7 cents overnight! Who is willing to boycott?

Pretty tough to Boycott though. We still need gas. We could boycott gas stations though. I would suggest we only use 1 certain station or company. I would suggest Coop. They are well equipped, with bulk stations, great service and great member rewards.  
 
Edited by JustanotherNobody, 2016-05-27 06:42:21

If this was a difference between Brandon and Winnipeg prices a boycott might work, but this is a situation for a commodity being in a short supply, or so we are told. Refineries run at a certain level of capacity, usually a pretty high level, and reducing capacity by 1-2 percent can result in a draw down in supplies. Gasoline prices are determined by the futures market, and that market is subject to rumours and fact, as well as supply and demand, and all play a part in setting prices.  
 
Most of us like capitalism, but there are draw backs to it, take the idea that the cream rises to the top, which means well run companies do well and continue to grow, through acquisitions competition becomes less, and the chance of price manipulation increases by things like reducing supply. It doesn''t just happen in gas prices,but many other things as well, that is the reason for anti trust laws in countries like the US.  
Capitalism works well, sometimes too well.  
 
Edited by don brown, 2016-05-27 07:54:49