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1 chance said "but I have seen vehicles with a permit handicap parking in handicap zone to get out of their vehicle and walking fine meaning they use that permit (probably family member) to park there. "

be one of those people looking like I've borrowed someone's tag. I walk "fine": I even wear heels, (boo to me). I'm probably in the store for an hour & will come out with one bag. That's because I'll have spent a lot of time leaning on the cart or resting due to my illness. Don't judge what you don't know please.

Personaly think that a handicap parking pass is fairly easy to get. Some and maybe most of those with permits are legit, but I am not naive enough to think that no one is using the system to pay a little in order to get "VIP" parking. I remember when handicap parking first come out and it was a good thing. It was meant to serve those that have difficulty in getting around such as paraplegic and in a wheelchair. It has grown to serve not only those in wheelchairs, but anybody who complains to the doctor about having difficulty in getting around, be it a serious illness to anybody with a serious weight problem or sore chronic knee like myself. All you do is complain to your doctor about how difficult it is to get around and how a "handicap parking space" sign would improve your quality of life. Sure, the doctor will ask a few question and you have to pay, but by and large a majority of doctors will process the request quickly and without reservation. A handicap sign is not difficult to obtain and the proof (just look around) is that most that use the spots get out of their vehicles and just about run into the store in their high heels no less without any use of a walking aid, but should you ever judge them for having a sign, heaven forbid!!!! Nothing but a VIP sign in most case IMO!

70`s guy said "Personaly think that a handicap parking pass is fairly easy to get. Some and maybe most of those with permits are legit, but I am not naive enough to think that no one is using the system to pay a little in order to get "VIP" parking. I remember when handicap parking first come out and it was a good thing. It was meant to serve those that have difficulty in getting around such as paraplegic and in a wheelchair. It has grown to serve not only those in wheelchairs, but anybody who complains to the doctor about having difficulty in getting around, be it a serious illness to anybody with a serious weight problem or sore chronic knee like myself. All you do is complain to your doctor about how difficult it is to get around and how a "handicap parking space" sign would improve your quality of life. Sure, the doctor will ask a few question and you have to pay, but by and large a majority of doctors will process the request quickly and without reservation. A handicap sign is not difficult to obtain and the proof (just look around) is that most that use the spots get out of their vehicles and just about run into the store in their high heels no less without any use of a walking aid, but should you ever judge them for having a sign, heaven forbid!!!! Nothing but a VIP sign in most case IMO! "

& some others on here know that it's not your Dr.making the decision whether or not you (or I) get a handicap tag? All the Dr.does is complete a form stating your/my illnesses. It's sent in to the Parking Permit Program in Winnipeg & they make the decision whether or not to issue a tag. They're NOT that easy to get.

MDG said "    70`s guy said "Personaly think that a handicap parking pass is fairly easy to get. Some and maybe most of those with permits are legit, but I am not naive enough to think that no one is using the system to pay a little in order to get "VIP" parking. I remember when handicap parking first come out and it was a good thing. It was meant to serve those that have difficulty in getting around such as paraplegic and in a wheelchair. It has grown to serve not only those in wheelchairs, but anybody who complains to the doctor about having difficulty in getting around, be it a serious illness to anybody with a serious weight problem or sore chronic knee like myself. All you do is complain to your doctor about how difficult it is to get around and how a "handicap parking space" sign would improve your quality of life. Sure, the doctor will ask a few question and you have to pay, but by and large a majority of doctors will process the request quickly and without reservation. A handicap sign is not difficult to obtain and the proof (just look around) is that most that use the spots get out of their vehicles and just about run into the store in their high heels no less without any use of a walking aid, but should you ever judge them for having a sign, heaven forbid!!!! Nothing but a VIP sign in most case IMO! " & some others on here know that it's not your Dr.making the decision whether or not you (or I) get a handicap tag? All the Dr.does is complete a form stating your/my illnesses. It's sent in to the Parking Permit Program in Winnipeg & they make the decision whether or not to issue a tag. They're NOT that easy to get. "

Don't you think that the doctors recommendation weights very heavilly in the "Parking permits" decision making?  
Sorry, but I do disagree with you as they're not difficult to get as the vast majority of people I see using them don't use a walking aid. Doctors are xaring and sympathetic by nature, at least the vast majority that I've encounterred. The squeaky wheel gets the grease and if a patient complains enough about some chronic pain and that they need a handicap sign to improve their quality of life then the doctor will most likely support them and they'll get the permit. This thread is about thise that park in handicap space without a permit and it should never happen. You forget it, then don't park in a handicap zone. But yeah, I think for many, they're become VIP parking passes unfortunately!

70`s guy said "    MDG said "    70`s guy said "Personaly think that a handicap parking pass is fairly easy to get. Some and maybe most of those with permits are legit, but I am not naive enough to think that no one is using the system to pay a little in order to get "VIP" parking. I remember when handicap parking first come out and it was a good thing. It was meant to serve those that have difficulty in getting around such as paraplegic and in a wheelchair. It has grown to serve not only those in wheelchairs, but anybody who complains to the doctor about having difficulty in getting around, be it a serious illness to anybody with a serious weight problem or sore chronic knee like myself. All you do is complain to your doctor about how difficult it is to get around and how a "handicap parking space" sign would improve your quality of life. Sure, the doctor will ask a few question and you have to pay, but by and large a majority of doctors will process the request quickly and without reservation. A handicap sign is not difficult to obtain and the proof (just look around) is that most that use the spots get out of their vehicles and just about run into the store in their high heels no less without any use of a walking aid, but should you ever judge them for having a sign, heaven forbid!!!! Nothing but a VIP sign in most case IMO! " & some others on here know that it's not your Dr.making the decision whether or not you (or I) get a handicap tag? All the Dr.does is complete a form stating your/my illnesses. It's sent in to the Parking Permit Program in Winnipeg & they make the decision whether or not to issue a tag. They're NOT that easy to get. " Don't you think that the doctors recommendation weights very heavilly in the "Parking permits" decision making?   Sorry, but I do disagree with you as they're not difficult to get as the vast majority of people I see using them don't use a walking aid. Doctors are xaring and sympathetic by nature, at least the vast majority that I've encounterred. The squeaky wheel gets the grease and if a patient complains enough about some chronic pain and that they need a handicap sign to improve their quality of life then the doctor will most likely support them and they'll get the permit. This thread is about thise that park in handicap space without a permit and it should never happen. You forget it, then don't park in a handicap zone. But yeah, I think for many, they're become VIP parking passes unfortunately! "

and it had to be approve by family doc not a walk in doctor so they are not that easy to get unless u have a quack doctor

Didn't infer that people can simply go to a "walk in" clinic and start the permit application there.  
I absolutely agree with you that the permit application goes through the family doctor. I don't know why, going through the family doctor is a difficult hurdle as you seem to imply. If not an obvious physical disability thrn just plead your case to the family doctor repetitively and I'm sure you'll be able to process an application once your pain is diagnosed as chronic.

Good luck with that people. Really have any of you ever got a ticket for parking in a handicap spot or even know of anybody that has. Merchants aren't about to report customers and police are reluctant to enforce bylaws on private property likewise for the bylaw enforcement officer. It's the wild west of parking lots. Just be careful when dealing with the A-holes abusing the system because you will probably be proved in the wrong legally-harassment, assault, etc.

Thrupence said "Good luck with that people. Really have any of you ever got a ticket for parking in a handicap spot or even know of anybody that has. Merchants aren't about to report customers and police are reluctant to enforce bylaws on private property likewise for the bylaw enforcement officer. It's the wild west of parking lots. Just be careful when dealing with the A-holes abusing the system because you will probably be proved in the wrong legally-harassment, assault, etc. "

Agree!  
Police have far more urgent matters to attend to and it's also on private property to boot. Merchants don't police it either and it's pretty much on an honor basis. Not sure if a photo of a car in a handicap space without a permit would interest the "handicap parking pass" authority in Winnipeg. If it became a huge issue where anybody parks in handicap spaces, then I would think that the handicap parking authority might get involved and fines issued. Never heard of it yet though. Police and merchants though, not interested in policing the handicap parking spaces.

That arrogance gives people the right to park there just because they want to or don't care

From what I had explained is 150 base 1 price if not paid in 30 days goes to 350

MDG said "    1 chance said "but I have seen vehicles with a permit handicap parking in handicap zone to get out of their vehicle and walking fine meaning they use that permit (probably family member) to park there. " be one of those people looking like I've borrowed someone's tag. I walk "fine": I even wear heels, (boo to me). I'm probably in the store for an hour & will come out with one bag. That's because I'll have spent a lot of time leaning on the cart or resting due to my illness. Don't judge what you don't know please. "

I know lots of people seem to have illness, back pains, knee pains, leg problems, health issues so half of parking lot will be for handicap spaces. Better make lots of permits.  
You can't deny there are so many obesity so instead of increasing parking permit spaces maybe increase awareness and make changes in your life. I don't know about your family but look at my family ancestor pictures they were all thin, more in shape than now, mine lived till late 90 and pass 100 so what is wrong with people in this century.  
Do we live too easy I know few people changed their habits and lifestyle and improved their problems.  
Your mind is as powerfull as you want to be.  
Health care will be in the big hole soon.

Maybe the solution is to have a sticker that goes on a windshield of the handicappers vehicle.  
One for each of their vehicles if needed.  
And that sticker could have the vehicles plate number e:mbedded on it, so that illuminates the cheaters.  
And maybe the police should maybe drive through the lots periodically.  
Afterall, illegal parking is illegal parking.

Don't judge a book by its cover (or a person by what you see). You'll look as idiotic as the "shamer" in this story.  
 
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2016/07/23/ontario-woman-with-ms-gets-note-shaming-her-for-using-handicap-parking-space

The main requirement for a permit is not being able to walk 50 feet unassisted