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Just a warning to everyone that there are a group of individuals stealing bikes from peoples yards. They have bolt cutters and must have a truck because they took all five of our bikes chained up, chain was cut. Two of the bikes were not ride-able. They have also taken from a neighbor who's bikes were in a fenced yard and his expensive locks were cut as well. A friend of ours also had their child's bike stolen where the lock was cut as well. Just a heads up, thanks

part of town was this.

these People really need to get a Life and a Job and buy your own stuff. they should be disgusted with them selfs maybe there Just Jelous Of working People Cause there to damn Lazy to be One of them

My fiance had his bike taken a few weeks back from our west end apartment near the mall. Cut his lock and took off in the middle of the night.  
 
We were on our way home from work a few nights later going down a back alley and I could have sworn I saw a group of teenagers taking it apart in a back yard a block away from our house. By the time we did a lap back around to double check (5 mins later) the whole yard was empty and the kids and bikes were no where to be found. Reported it to the police but never heard back.

I hear this every summer. Someone comes into town from another community and goes "shopping for bikes" after midnight with a truck and a pair of bolt cutters. I knew of a person who grew up on a First Nation community and she said it was common practice for one or two family members to "shop" for the others. Bikes, barbecues, outdoor yard toys and whatever that could amuse their kids, nieces and nephews. I knew someone who lost an trampoline a few summers ago. She'd justified the action, by saying the TV shows/commercials would fill their kids heads with high hopes of wanting that stuff that the adults feel obligated to go get it. A sort of "Robin hood" mentality of it all. And with a town like Brandon, it was easy pickings. Sometimes the stuff would be just sitting there out in the open. Granted, Superdads bikes were chained down. But, if it stills sits out and can be seen... no lock will stop it from disappearing if these folks want it bad enough.  
 
It's sad and makes me bitter to think that this kind of attitude has been going on now for generations. To just help yourself to someone else's stuff and give it to children. What kind of lesson is that? A twisted version of "share and share alike"? ...Although, they aren't really sharing our stuff with us, but just among themselves. LOL  
 
I hate doing it, but every night I bring in everything into our garage and lock both the front and back gates. My rule of thumb is... "If hey don't see it or too much work to haul it over the fence... I stays ours"  
 
Just my opinion, I could be wrong. -- Happy Canada Day --

snowman5 said "I hear this every summer. Someone comes into town from another community and goes "shopping for bikes" after midnight with a truck and a pair of bolt cutters. I knew of a person who grew up on a First Nation community and she said it was common practice for one or two family members to "shop" for the others. Bikes, barbecues, outdoor yard toys and whatever that could amuse their kids, nieces and nephews. I knew someone who lost an trampoline a few summers ago. She'd justified the action, by saying the TV shows/commercials would fill their kids heads with high hopes of wanting that stuff that the adults feel obligated to go get it. A sort of "Robin hood" mentality of it all. And with a town like Brandon, it was easy pickings. Sometimes the stuff would be just sitting there out in the open. Granted, Superdads bikes were chained down. But, if it stills sits out and can be seen... no lock will stop it from disappearing if these folks want it bad enough.     It's sad and makes me bitter to think that this kind of attitude has been going on now for generations. To just help yourself to someone else's stuff and give it to children. What kind of lesson is that? A twisted version of "share and share alike"? ...Although, they aren't really sharing our stuff with us, but just among themselves. LOL     I hate doing it, but every night I bring in everything into our garage and lock both the front and back gates. My rule of thumb is... "If hey don't see it or too much work to haul it over the fence... I stays ours"     Just my opinion, I could be wrong. -- Happy Canada Day -- "

That's quite a broad brush you are using to explain away the stolen bikes in our community.  
 
You may or may not be surprised to hear that there is an underground bike trade in our community that involves white thieves and a larger community two hours to the East.  
 
Cowardness isn't based on where you live. It's based on a could care less about my neighbor mentality.

the point trying to be made was there is this specific mentality behind these thefts. Snowman5 had a friend that stated it existed in her community. I have no doubt that same mentality exists in other groups as well. Skin color or race or religion or whatever has little to do with it.

JessieJay said "the point trying to be made was there is this specific mentality behind these thefts. Snowman5 had a friend that stated it existed in her community. I have no doubt that same mentality exists in other groups as well. Skin color or race or religion or whatever has little to do with it. "

let's not single anyone out.

But that is what you also just did.  
 
Its not just white theives from 2 hours east or just brown theives from reserve. Its both, and probably more considering the amount of theft going on.

Let's not kid ourselves. We know who is committing the majority of crime in our city and province for that matter. If anybody wants to dispute that they just need to read the paper or watch the news. Some people might think this is harsh but it's the unfortunate truth. Of course that doesn't mean that there aren't criminals of every race and colour.

Kirk said "Let's not kid ourselves. We know who is committing the majority of crime in our city and province for that matter. If anybody wants to dispute that they just need to read the paper or watch the news. Some people might think this is harsh but it's the unfortunate truth. Of course that doesn't mean that there aren't criminals of every race and colour. "

Reading or watching anything is subjective. I like facts and I'd be interested in any real police statistics that you have to back up your statement that "we know who is committing the majority of crime". Just curious.

Fact of the matter is we live in a society where more and more has to continually be done to attempt to safeguard and prevent possessions from being stolen. Most cases if a thief wants something they are going to get it. Taking the simple steps such as locking things up etc helps, but it's never enough.  
 
Put things out of site, keep areas well lit, use multiple lock methods, make the locking methods right and awkward ( for someone to cut it they have to first get on it and second be able to put some force into it. Make it awkward for them to do that )  
 
End of the day if they want it they will have or can find the means to get it. Best protection is creating a situation which they don't want to enter to get it through lighting, difficulty causing them to take much longer and therefore more risk, possible sound and alerts through alarms etc. It sucks but unfortunately it's reality.

Here you go.  
 
http://globalnews.ca/news/1618120/report-flags-severe-over-representation-of-aboriginals-in-manitoba-jails/  
 
http://www.oci-bec.gc.ca/cnt/rpt/oth-aut/oth-aut20121022info-eng.aspx  
 
http://www.winnipeg.ca/police/CrimeStoppers/Wanted/wanted.stm

Kirk said "Here you go.     http://globalnews.ca/news/1618120/report-flags-severe-over-representation-of-aboriginals-in-manitoba-jails/     http://www.oci-bec.gc.ca/cnt/rpt/oth-aut/oth-aut20121022info-eng.aspx     http://www.winnipeg.ca/police/CrimeStoppers/Wanted/wanted.stm "

Hello. The information you've shared is not Brandon specific. It is also dated (2014). Regardless, I see that you are more interested in proving that you are right than recognizing the underlying problem. So, I'll go ahead and say it, you're right! Now you can feel good about yourself that you've proven your point.  
 
Edited by Dunno, 2017-07-03 11:30:07

I think you are more interested in not accepting the obvious.  
I wish I was wrong but the facts are the facts. I don't feel good at all about this-who would??? As far as the underlying problem does that make it any more acceptable? Let me know after you've been a victim of a violent crime.

Kirk said "I think you are more interested in not accepting the obvious.   I wish I was wrong but the facts are the facts. I don't feel good at all about this-who would??? As far as the underlying problem does that make it any more acceptable? Let me know after you've been a victim of a violent crime. "

Go ahead and feel good about yourself. You are right. No need to keep defending yourself.  
 
I can tell that you are one of those people who are not sympathetic to the wrongs done to the indigenous people's of this country and the fallout of those wrongs. You can sit on your morals if you like. But if you really want to do some worthwhile research you should educate yourself on the matter, get some empathy, and learn how people like you are a part of the problem and not the solution.

regardless of underlying causes there are those who can never be helped. Not singling out any group and that is the truth-but some people simply cannot be helped.  
 
I was at an event on the weekend and one family constantly complained of being shunned and persecuted (nothing to do with skin color)-they made tons of errors but every misfortune was someone else's fault. Made me realize that helping them was impossible. This theft thing-is much the same. The offenders do not want help-it is never enough.

Sorry I'm not part of the problem-I'm a law-abiding citizen. I would say to you that making excuses for people doesn't help the matter. Maybe we should allow anybody that has had a diffucult upbringing to do whatever they want in society-is that what empathy means to you?

Kirk said "Sorry I'm not part of the problem-I'm a law-abiding citizen. I would say to you that making excuses for people doesn't help the matter. Maybe we should allow anybody that has had a diffucult upbringing to do whatever they want in society-is that what empathy means to you? "

Watch and learn. This is what empathy looks like. I met her. She is more of a person than any of us will ever be.