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Brenda said "    Reid said "    Johnbisonbear said "is making and I'm not sure why people aren't comprehending is that his friend fell while getting off the bus at the downtown bus terminal. Has no one seen city employees at the terminal clearing snow and spreading sand?     Plus I'm not sure why the young lady could not get an answer from the city office to do with her fall. What kind of managing is that? Sweep?     If someone falls at a business the very least people get is a phone call inquiring how things are going. " Very easy to jump on the "find every fault with my post" bandwagon , when most missed my point entirely !! She emailed them (more than once) and got no answer, im saying that maybe the lady from the OP did report it and like my girlfriends incident, they didnt answer !! Answer to what she was wearing, great running shoes with good traction (she just got off work) .... some of you need to put yourself in someone elses shoes for once in your life and have a little remorse. " there is not one good shoe out there that has good traction on ice. "

so you have just stated a good point as to why ice needs to be chipped away or sanded , especially when on city owned property or any other kind of business...

Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Reid said "    Johnbisonbear said "is making and I'm not sure why people aren't comprehending is that his friend fell while getting off the bus at the downtown bus terminal. Has no one seen city employees at the terminal clearing snow and spreading sand?     Plus I'm not sure why the young lady could not get an answer from the city office to do with her fall. What kind of managing is that? Sweep?     If someone falls at a business the very least people get is a phone call inquiring how things are going. " Very easy to jump on the "find every fault with my post" bandwagon , when most missed my point entirely !! She emailed them (more than once) and got no answer, im saying that maybe the lady from the OP did report it and like my girlfriends incident, they didnt answer !! Answer to what she was wearing, great running shoes with good traction (she just got off work) .... some of you need to put yourself in someone elses shoes for once in your life and have a little remorse. " there is not one good shoe out there that has good traction on ice. " so you have just stated a good point as to why ice needs to be chipped away or sanded , especially when on city owned property or any other kind of business... "

I am sure they cannot be every place at one time. They could have been there earlier in the day...and it started to snow/rain...who knows.  
 
But, if I am stepping off a bus, no matter what kind of shoes I have on, I am looking at one I am stepping onto and being very careful. Even being careful, I could fall....but I certainly would not be contacting someone about it, unless I ended up with broken bones and in the hospital.  
 
If as Reid said his girlfriend tried to contact them and was in so much pain, she could not go to work. First of all, get a note from a doctor...is it a sprain, just twisted, etc. She got no reply. Take your letter and go to the City of Brandon office in person. Or, just chalk it up as a mishap and carry on.  
 
Edited by Brenda, 2017-09-25 18:50:04

Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Reid said "    Johnbisonbear said "is making and I'm not sure why people aren't comprehending is that his friend fell while getting off the bus at the downtown bus terminal. Has no one seen city employees at the terminal clearing snow and spreading sand?     Plus I'm not sure why the young lady could not get an answer from the city office to do with her fall. What kind of managing is that? Sweep?     If someone falls at a business the very least people get is a phone call inquiring how things are going. " Very easy to jump on the "find every fault with my post" bandwagon , when most missed my point entirely !! She emailed them (more than once) and got no answer, im saying that maybe the lady from the OP did report it and like my girlfriends incident, they didnt answer !! Answer to what she was wearing, great running shoes with good traction (she just got off work) .... some of you need to put yourself in someone elses shoes for once in your life and have a little remorse. " there is not one good shoe out there that has good traction on ice. " so you have just stated a good point as to why ice needs to be chipped away or sanded , especially when on city owned property or any other kind of business... " I am sure they cannot be every place at one time. They could have been there earlier in the day...and it started to snow/rain...who knows.     But, if I am stepping off a bus, no matter what kind of shoes I have on, I am looking at one I am stepping onto and being very careful. Even being careful, I could fall....but I certainly would not be contacting someone about it, unless I ended up with broken bones and in the hospital.     If as Reid said his girlfriend tried to contact them and was in so much pain, she could not go to work. First of all, get a note from a doctor...is it a sprain, just twisted, etc. She got no reply. Take your letter and go to the City of Brandon office in person. Or, just chalk it up as a mishap and carry on.     Edited by Brenda, 2017-09-25 18:50:04"

in a grocery store on water or a piece of lettuce wold you just brush it off and carry on? Lesson learned?

Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Reid said "    Johnbisonbear said "is making and I'm not sure why people aren't comprehending is that his friend fell while getting off the bus at the downtown bus terminal. Has no one seen city employees at the terminal clearing snow and spreading sand?     Plus I'm not sure why the young lady could not get an answer from the city office to do with her fall. What kind of managing is that? Sweep?     If someone falls at a business the very least people get is a phone call inquiring how things are going. " Very easy to jump on the "find every fault with my post" bandwagon , when most missed my point entirely !! She emailed them (more than once) and got no answer, im saying that maybe the lady from the OP did report it and like my girlfriends incident, they didnt answer !! Answer to what she was wearing, great running shoes with good traction (she just got off work) .... some of you need to put yourself in someone elses shoes for once in your life and have a little remorse. " there is not one good shoe out there that has good traction on ice. " so you have just stated a good point as to why ice needs to be chipped away or sanded , especially when on city owned property or any other kind of business... " I am sure they cannot be every place at one time. They could have been there earlier in the day...and it started to snow/rain...who knows.     But, if I am stepping off a bus, no matter what kind of shoes I have on, I am looking at one I am stepping onto and being very careful. Even being careful, I could fall....but I certainly would not be contacting someone about it, unless I ended up with broken bones and in the hospital.     If as Reid said his girlfriend tried to contact them and was in so much pain, she could not go to work. First of all, get a note from a doctor...is it a sprain, just twisted, etc. She got no reply. Take your letter and go to the City of Brandon office in person. Or, just chalk it up as a mishap and carry on.     Edited by Brenda, 2017-09-25 18:50:04" in a grocery store on water or a piece of lettuce wold you just brush it off and carry on? Lesson learned? "

depends on if I was watching were I was walking.  
 
If I was looking at something else and just walking along, well, I guess I should have been watching were I was walking. Think about it, things are on the floor at a lot of stores, you could slip and fall just as the cleaner was coming to clean it up. But, all it takes is being careful, aware of your surroundings and taking accountability. Accidents happen all the time......we carry on.  
 
Everyone wants to blame someone these days.

I have an idea, maybe people that don't want to be held accountable for themselves an petition the city to hire people to stand at every bus stop all day long, and ensure that there is sand and salt the stops so that, there will never be any ice there when we step off, perhaps a red carpet or a tent, than we can start a conversation About, higher taxes or city employees just sitting around doing nothing all winter, until we step off the kept up piece of sidewalk and slip on a patch of ice, than we can converse about that too, and than we can hire someone to look after that as well, and get back to a conversation about city workers not doing anything, and round and round we go. Ahh crap I tripped on my shoelace getting off the bus, bus drivers fault, he didn't make sure my shoes were tied before I got on the bus, and why hold myself accountable.

Sky8bubbles said "I think it's hilarious that buses are the only means of transportation that don't require seat belts. Cars do, planes do, cabs do... why not busses? Isn't it the law to always buckle your seat belt before moving... as a kid I always thought it was strange that there where never any seat belts on a bus for the exact reason that what if there's an accident and someone goes flying. Or in this case a hard break to avoid a collision. Brandon is full of horrible drivers that never pay attention or look before proceeding so it doesn't surprise me that the bus driver did what he/she did. But it still amazes me that buses arent mandatory to follow the cardinal rule about seat belts. If they at least provided them and this person chose not to wear it well then the only one responsible would be that sole individual not the bus driver or city transit cuz that person failed to buckle their seat belt. But in this case since seat belts are not provided on a bus than yeah she should get paid cuz she had no way to prevent the incident from occurring "

I can't think of any form of mass transit that has seat beats. Buses, subways, LRTs, seabus, etc. It makes sense, because of the frequency of starting/stopping, people moving around on/off, generally a relatively low speed/long accelerations, etc. The driver usually gets a seat belt, but that's because they're at the windshield and their risk of ejection (the biggest thing seat belts try to prevent) is much higher than someone further back on a 30" bus.  
 
I know school buses are designed as such that the seats themselves are supposed to offer some form of protection, and are designed to be high enough to prevent ejection. Transit buses, subways and trollies (streetcars) usually have hand holds that help tremendously in sudden accelerations and deaccelerations at low speed.

Trapper85 said "I have an idea, maybe people that don't want to be held accountable for themselves an petition the city to hire people to stand at every bus stop all day long, and ensure that there is sand and salt the stops so that, there will never be any ice there when we step off, perhaps a red carpet or a tent, than we can start a conversation About, higher taxes or city employees just sitting around doing nothing all winter, until we step off the kept up piece of sidewalk and slip on a patch of ice, than we can converse about that too, and than we can hire someone to look after that as well, and get back to a conversation about city workers not doing anything, and round and round we go. Ahh crap I tripped on my shoelace getting off the bus, bus drivers fault, he didn't make sure my shoes were tied before I got on the bus, and why hold myself accountable. "

Who do I contact when I get out of my car and slip on the ice on the city street?? It is infact city property!

Trapper85 said "I have an idea, maybe people that don't want to be held accountable for themselves an petition the city to hire people to stand at every bus stop all day long, and ensure that there is sand and salt the stops so that, there will never be any ice there when we step off, perhaps a red carpet or a tent, than we can start a conversation About, higher taxes or city employees just sitting around doing nothing all winter, until we step off the kept up piece of sidewalk and slip on a patch of ice, than we can converse about that too, and than we can hire someone to look after that as well, and get back to a conversation about city workers not doing anything, and round and round we go. Ahh crap I tripped on my shoelace getting off the bus, bus drivers fault, he didn't make sure my shoes were tied before I got on the bus, and why hold myself accountable. "

Agreed. The extent that people expect a public service to go to in order to protect them from their own inability to help themselves is ridiculous.  
 
The public transit service isn''t making the city any money. It costs tax payers money, actually. Keep your eyes open when you step off the bus and be aware of your environmental conditions. Kind of a no brainer.  
 
My original question was, what are this woman''s intentions? When provided with contact info for BT yet she chose to go to the BS and MPI....we do realize that any amount she manages to get from insurance or the city comes back to the public?  
 
If you want someone there coddling you and making sure conditions are always pristine, that comes with a price. So just make sure you''re not the next one on here complaining when taxes go through the roof.  
 
Edited by Brandoncitychick, 2017-09-25 21:40:22

Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Reid said "    Johnbisonbear said "is making and I'm not sure why people aren't comprehending is that his friend fell while getting off the bus at the downtown bus terminal. Has no one seen city employees at the terminal clearing snow and spreading sand?     Plus I'm not sure why the young lady could not get an answer from the city office to do with her fall. What kind of managing is that? Sweep?     If someone falls at a business the very least people get is a phone call inquiring how things are going. " Very easy to jump on the "find every fault with my post" bandwagon , when most missed my point entirely !! She emailed them (more than once) and got no answer, im saying that maybe the lady from the OP did report it and like my girlfriends incident, they didnt answer !! Answer to what she was wearing, great running shoes with good traction (she just got off work) .... some of you need to put yourself in someone elses shoes for once in your life and have a little remorse. " there is not one good shoe out there that has good traction on ice. " so you have just stated a good point as to why ice needs to be chipped away or sanded , especially when on city owned property or any other kind of business... " I am sure they cannot be every place at one time. They could have been there earlier in the day...and it started to snow/rain...who knows.     But, if I am stepping off a bus, no matter what kind of shoes I have on, I am looking at one I am stepping onto and being very careful. Even being careful, I could fall....but I certainly would not be contacting someone about it, unless I ended up with broken bones and in the hospital.     If as Reid said his girlfriend tried to contact them and was in so much pain, she could not go to work. First of all, get a note from a doctor...is it a sprain, just twisted, etc. She got no reply. Take your letter and go to the City of Brandon office in person. Or, just chalk it up as a mishap and carry on.     Edited by Brenda, 2017-09-25 18:50:04" in a grocery store on water or a piece of lettuce wold you just brush it off and carry on? Lesson learned? "

Yes, that is exactly what you do! Its Winter in Manitoba, its impossible to keep all the ice and snow away. Accidents happen. There is no magic button to push to clear all the snow and ice. We are all adults here use you head and pay attention to what your doing. I think everyone of us has slipped on the ice at some point. What are we supposed to do go ahead and start suing mom and pop business owners over it too?

Trapper85 said "I have an idea, maybe people that don't want to be held accountable for themselves an petition the city to hire people to stand at every bus stop all day long, and ensure that there is sand and salt the stops so that, there will never be any ice there when we step off, perhaps a red carpet or a tent, than we can start a conversation About, higher taxes or city employees just sitting around doing nothing all winter, until we step off the kept up piece of sidewalk and slip on a patch of ice, than we can converse about that too, and than we can hire someone to look after that as well, and get back to a conversation about city workers not doing anything, and round and round we go. Ahh crap I tripped on my shoelace getting off the bus, bus drivers fault, he didn't make sure my shoes were tied before I got on the bus, and why hold myself accountable. "

Well said !

You will be like all people, you will lose some of your strength, you will lose the speed of your refexes, you will lose the ability to heal quickly, but you will gain the increased chances of injury, and at this point you may understand. Hopefully if you slip and fall the injury is not the death sentence that many seniors face with something like a broke hip.  
Laws are there because society involves all people.

Trapper85 said "I have an idea, maybe people that don't want to be held accountable for themselves an petition the city to hire people to stand at every bus stop all day long, and ensure that there is sand and salt the stops so that, there will never be any ice there when we step off, perhaps a red carpet or a tent, than we can start a conversation About, higher taxes or city employees just sitting around doing nothing all winter, until we step off the kept up piece of sidewalk and slip on a patch of ice, than we can converse about that too, and than we can hire someone to look after that as well, and get back to a conversation about city workers not doing anything, and round and round we go. Ahh crap I tripped on my shoelace getting off the bus, bus drivers fault, he didn't make sure my shoes were tied before I got on the bus, and why hold myself accountable. "

The bus mall downtown IS the responsibility of the city to maintain!  
 
No one is saying that every bus stop needs to be cleared.

don brown said "You will be like all people, you will lose some of your strength, you will lose the speed of your refexes, you will lose the ability to heal quickly, but you will gain the increased chances of injury, and at this point you may understand. Hopefully if you slip and fall the injury is not the death sentence that many seniors face with something like a broke hip.   Laws are there because society involves all people. "

a well thought out common sense comment

Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Reid said "    Johnbisonbear said "is making and I'm not sure why people aren't comprehending is that his friend fell while getting off the bus at the downtown bus terminal. Has no one seen city employees at the terminal clearing snow and spreading sand?     Plus I'm not sure why the young lady could not get an answer from the city office to do with her fall. What kind of managing is that? Sweep?     If someone falls at a business the very least people get is a phone call inquiring how things are going. " Very easy to jump on the "find every fault with my post" bandwagon , when most missed my point entirely !! She emailed them (more than once) and got no answer, im saying that maybe the lady from the OP did report it and like my girlfriends incident, they didnt answer !! Answer to what she was wearing, great running shoes with good traction (she just got off work) .... some of you need to put yourself in someone elses shoes for once in your life and have a little remorse. " there is not one good shoe out there that has good traction on ice. " so you have just stated a good point as to why ice needs to be chipped away or sanded , especially when on city owned property or any other kind of business... " I am sure they cannot be every place at one time. They could have been there earlier in the day...and it started to snow/rain...who knows.     But, if I am stepping off a bus, no matter what kind of shoes I have on, I am looking at one I am stepping onto and being very careful. Even being careful, I could fall....but I certainly would not be contacting someone about it, unless I ended up with broken bones and in the hospital.     If as Reid said his girlfriend tried to contact them and was in so much pain, she could not go to work. First of all, get a note from a doctor...is it a sprain, just twisted, etc. She got no reply. Take your letter and go to the City of Brandon office in person. Or, just chalk it up as a mishap and carry on.     Edited by Brenda, 2017-09-25 18:50:04" in a grocery store on water or a piece of lettuce wold you just brush it off and carry on? Lesson learned? " depends on if I was watching were I was walking.     If I was looking at something else and just walking along, well, I guess I should have been watching were I was walking. Think about it, things are on the floor at a lot of stores, you could slip and fall just as the cleaner was coming to clean it up. But, all it takes is being careful, aware of your surroundings and taking accountability. Accidents happen all the time......we carry on.     Everyone wants to blame someone these days. "

you do live in Brandon right?  
 
So I guess in the winter you don't shovel or clear ice off your 'city-owned' front sidewalk? After all you just said that people need to watch where they are walking.  
 
The city is looking at a residential snow clearing bylaw where residents would have to keep their sidewalks clear of snow and ice. WHY? Oh, no brainer I guess, to keep people walking safe so they don't wipe out!  
 
If you were out with an elderly relative and they fell in a business what would you expect the business to do? Nothing?

People need to watch where they are walking. Common its Manitoba for god sakes, it sometimes snows for weeks at a time. Am I expected to stay home from work and sit outside with a shovel and bucket of salt just in case it snows or ices over while im away and some poor snowflake walks by and falls and sues me for it... give me a damn break. People are trying, it is impossible to have every patch of snow and ice cleared away in the winter time. How do you not understand this. You must be a very self entitled person.

Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Reid said "    Johnbisonbear said "is making and I'm not sure why people aren't comprehending is that his friend fell while getting off the bus at the downtown bus terminal. Has no one seen city employees at the terminal clearing snow and spreading sand?     Plus I'm not sure why the young lady could not get an answer from the city office to do with her fall. What kind of managing is that? Sweep?     If someone falls at a business the very least people get is a phone call inquiring how things are going. " Very easy to jump on the "find every fault with my post" bandwagon , when most missed my point entirely !! She emailed them (more than once) and got no answer, im saying that maybe the lady from the OP did report it and like my girlfriends incident, they didnt answer !! Answer to what she was wearing, great running shoes with good traction (she just got off work) .... some of you need to put yourself in someone elses shoes for once in your life and have a little remorse. " there is not one good shoe out there that has good traction on ice. " so you have just stated a good point as to why ice needs to be chipped away or sanded , especially when on city owned property or any other kind of business... " I am sure they cannot be every place at one time. They could have been there earlier in the day...and it started to snow/rain...who knows.     But, if I am stepping off a bus, no matter what kind of shoes I have on, I am looking at one I am stepping onto and being very careful. Even being careful, I could fall....but I certainly would not be contacting someone about it, unless I ended up with broken bones and in the hospital.     If as Reid said his girlfriend tried to contact them and was in so much pain, she could not go to work. First of all, get a note from a doctor...is it a sprain, just twisted, etc. She got no reply. Take your letter and go to the City of Brandon office in person. Or, just chalk it up as a mishap and carry on.     Edited by Brenda, 2017-09-25 18:50:04" in a grocery store on water or a piece of lettuce wold you just brush it off and carry on? Lesson learned? " depends on if I was watching were I was walking.     If I was looking at something else and just walking along, well, I guess I should have been watching were I was walking. Think about it, things are on the floor at a lot of stores, you could slip and fall just as the cleaner was coming to clean it up. But, all it takes is being careful, aware of your surroundings and taking accountability. Accidents happen all the time......we carry on.     Everyone wants to blame someone these days. " you do live in Brandon right?     So I guess in the winter you don't shovel or clear ice off your 'city-owned' front sidewalk? After all you just said that people need to watch where they are walking.     The city is looking at a residential snow clearing bylaw where residents would have to keep their sidewalks clear of snow and ice. WHY? Oh, no brainer I guess, to keep people walking safe so they don't wipe out!     If you were out with an elderly relative and they fell in a business what would you expect the business to do? Nothing? "

I am the first one out there shoveling, when it snows. I clear all my property and the sidewalk, sometimes even the neighbors.  
 
But I still watch were I am walking.  
 
When it snows this winter, just message me and come look how clean my sidewalk is. Can't say that about everyone's.  
 
Have you never slipped, had an accident, cloned, so you can be in two places at once? Sometime I clear everything and it is still snowing, so then I go out again later.  
 
So, the city also can't be everywhere at once. Maybe the cleared the bus center and it was still snowing, went to some other city property and will come back and do the bus center again.  
 
But it is only common sense and accountability, which I am mature enough to understand and take blame if I am not paying attention, as I said I did in my first post when I ran into the back of another car. I was told my numerous people when that happened to look into it, as it was against the law to keep your trailer hitch on your vehicle if you are not towing something (I don't want to get into that, if it is a law or not). I did not look into if that was true or not, I took accountability for my driving that day. End of story.  
 
If I was out with the elderly (which I have been), normally any business will have a manager or assistant manager on duty. They would probably be notified. They may or may not offer some help. But if it was an elderly that just fell in a business, why would that business be expected to do anything....they are old, frail, they fall.

Johnbisonbear said "    Trapper85 said "I have an idea, maybe people that don't want to be held accountable for themselves an petition the city to hire people to stand at every bus stop all day long, and ensure that there is sand and salt the stops so that, there will never be any ice there when we step off, perhaps a red carpet or a tent, than we can start a conversation About, higher taxes or city employees just sitting around doing nothing all winter, until we step off the kept up piece of sidewalk and slip on a patch of ice, than we can converse about that too, and than we can hire someone to look after that as well, and get back to a conversation about city workers not doing anything, and round and round we go. Ahh crap I tripped on my shoelace getting off the bus, bus drivers fault, he didn't make sure my shoes were tied before I got on the bus, and why hold myself accountable. " The bus mall downtown IS the responsibility of the city to maintain!     No one is saying that every bus stop needs to be cleared. "

So if I slip and fall on an icy street, should I get compensation from the city? If not, WHY NOT?? It is city property and their responsibility!  
 
And why is the downtown bus mall any different than any bus stop? A person is getting off and on a bus at both locations  
 
Let''s get real here and realize that accidents do happen and is not alway a lawsuit!!  
 
Edited by lovetooshop, 2017-09-26 16:20:44

I am only trying to point out (and ive been proven correct so many times here) that maybe the city doesnt respond to complaints from the general public on injuring themselves on city vehicles/property ..... not that my gf should be more careful and not slip on the ice !! Also she did lose many shifts at work, due to her ankle was very swollen. I did tell her to go to the doctor, but she stubborn and didnt. Im just trying to point out that so many saying the OP "why go to MPI, why not report it to the city?" , maybe she did and they didnt answer so she went to MPI.

Reid said "I am only trying to point out (and ive been proven correct so many times here) that maybe the city doesnt respond to complaints from the general public on injuring themselves on city vehicles/property ..... not that my gf should be more careful and not slip on the ice !! Also she did lose many shifts at work, due to her ankle was very swollen. I did tell her to go to the doctor, but she stubborn and didnt. Im just trying to point out that so many saying the OP "why go to MPI, why not report it to the city?" , maybe she did and they didnt answer so she went to MPI. "

If she missed that many shifts, she should have went to a doctor and got a doctor's note, I would think her workplace would have wanted one.  
 
If it were that serious and the City did not answer her, I would have taken that doctors note (that she did not get) and marched right down to City Hall in person.  
 
So....not that serious.

Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Reid said "    Johnbisonbear said "is making and I'm not sure why people aren't comprehending is that his friend fell while getting off the bus at the downtown bus terminal. Has no one seen city employees at the terminal clearing snow and spreading sand?     Plus I'm not sure why the young lady could not get an answer from the city office to do with her fall. What kind of managing is that? Sweep?     If someone falls at a business the very least people get is a phone call inquiring how things are going. " Very easy to jump on the "find every fault with my post" bandwagon , when most missed my point entirely !! She emailed them (more than once) and got no answer, im saying that maybe the lady from the OP did report it and like my girlfriends incident, they didnt answer !! Answer to what she was wearing, great running shoes with good traction (she just got off work) .... some of you need to put yourself in someone elses shoes for once in your life and have a little remorse. " there is not one good shoe out there that has good traction on ice. " so you have just stated a good point as to why ice needs to be chipped away or sanded , especially when on city owned property or any other kind of business... " I am sure they cannot be every place at one time. They could have been there earlier in the day...and it started to snow/rain...who knows.     But, if I am stepping off a bus, no matter what kind of shoes I have on, I am looking at one I am stepping onto and being very careful. Even being careful, I could fall....but I certainly would not be contacting someone about it, unless I ended up with broken bones and in the hospital.     If as Reid said his girlfriend tried to contact them and was in so much pain, she could not go to work. First of all, get a note from a doctor...is it a sprain, just twisted, etc. She got no reply. Take your letter and go to the City of Brandon office in person. Or, just chalk it up as a mishap and carry on.     Edited by Brenda, 2017-09-25 18:50:04" in a grocery store on water or a piece of lettuce wold you just brush it off and carry on? Lesson learned? "

I have slipped on things in two public places. One at a hotel restaurant during the breakfast, I slipped on liquid that was spilt. I told them only so it could be cleaned up before someone else fell. Second place was at superstore. I wasn't wearing proper attire for it raining out and I slipped while look at vegetables. I got up and carried on.  
 
Why are people expecting an apology? My goodness move on.  
 
Ohh I also slipped outside of the BU library once during the winter. I was wearing vans that clearly have no grip. I didn't go running to them either to complain.  
 
Such a sad world we live in today when everyone expects something for an accident caused by no one.

Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Reid said "    Johnbisonbear said "is making and I'm not sure why people aren't comprehending is that his friend fell while getting off the bus at the downtown bus terminal. Has no one seen city employees at the terminal clearing snow and spreading sand?     Plus I'm not sure why the young lady could not get an answer from the city office to do with her fall. What kind of managing is that? Sweep?     If someone falls at a business the very least people get is a phone call inquiring how things are going. " Very easy to jump on the "find every fault with my post" bandwagon , when most missed my point entirely !! She emailed them (more than once) and got no answer, im saying that maybe the lady from the OP did report it and like my girlfriends incident, they didnt answer !! Answer to what she was wearing, great running shoes with good traction (she just got off work) .... some of you need to put yourself in someone elses shoes for once in your life and have a little remorse. " there is not one good shoe out there that has good traction on ice. " so you have just stated a good point as to why ice needs to be chipped away or sanded , especially when on city owned property or any other kind of business... " I am sure they cannot be every place at one time. They could have been there earlier in the day...and it started to snow/rain...who knows.     But, if I am stepping off a bus, no matter what kind of shoes I have on, I am looking at one I am stepping onto and being very careful. Even being careful, I could fall....but I certainly would not be contacting someone about it, unless I ended up with broken bones and in the hospital.     If as Reid said his girlfriend tried to contact them and was in so much pain, she could not go to work. First of all, get a note from a doctor...is it a sprain, just twisted, etc. She got no reply. Take your letter and go to the City of Brandon office in person. Or, just chalk it up as a mishap and carry on.     Edited by Brenda, 2017-09-25 18:50:04" in a grocery store on water or a piece of lettuce wold you just brush it off and carry on? Lesson learned? " depends on if I was watching were I was walking.     If I was looking at something else and just walking along, well, I guess I should have been watching were I was walking. Think about it, things are on the floor at a lot of stores, you could slip and fall just as the cleaner was coming to clean it up. But, all it takes is being careful, aware of your surroundings and taking accountability. Accidents happen all the time......we carry on.     Everyone wants to blame someone these days. " you do live in Brandon right?     So I guess in the winter you don't shovel or clear ice off your 'city-owned' front sidewalk? After all you just said that people need to watch where they are walking.     The city is looking at a residential snow clearing bylaw where residents would have to keep their sidewalks clear of snow and ice. WHY? Oh, no brainer I guess, to keep people walking safe so they don't wipe out!     If you were out with an elderly relative and they fell in a business what would you expect the business to do? Nothing? " I am the first one out there shoveling, when it snows. I clear all my property and the sidewalk, sometimes even the neighbors.     But I still watch were I am walking.     When it snows this winter, just message me and come look how clean my sidewalk is. Can't say that about everyone's.     Have you never slipped, had an accident, cloned, so you can be in two places at once? Sometime I clear everything and it is still snowing, so then I go out again later.     So, the city also can't be everywhere at once. Maybe the cleared the bus center and it was still snowing, went to some other city property and will come back and do the bus center again.     But it is only common sense and accountability, which I am mature enough to understand and take blame if I am not paying attention, as I said I did in my first post when I ran into the back of another car. I was told my numerous people when that happened to look into it, as it was against the law to keep your trailer hitch on your vehicle if you are not towing something (I don't want to get into that, if it is a law or not). I did not look into if that was true or not, I took accountability for my driving that day. End of story.     If I was out with the elderly (which I have been), normally any business will have a manager or assistant manager on duty. They would probably be notified. They may or may not offer some help. But if it was an elderly that just fell in a business, why would that business be expected to do anything....they are old, frail, they fall. "

to spell it out for you.  
 
If a person falls on a wet floor or on frayed carpet at a business, never mind if they are elderly, should the manager of the business offer care or support to the victim or just tell them to not be so clumsy or better yet not to grace their place again?

Reid said "I am only trying to point out (and ive been proven correct so many times here) that maybe the city doesnt respond to complaints from the general public on injuring themselves on city vehicles/property ..... not that my gf should be more careful and not slip on the ice !! Also she did lose many shifts at work, due to her ankle was very swollen. I did tell her to go to the doctor, but she stubborn and didnt. Im just trying to point out that so many saying the OP "why go to MPI, why not report it to the city?" , maybe she did and they didnt answer so she went to MPI. "

Whenever I contact the city, I wait and wait and wait for a reply. Sometimes I have to email again! I've waited over a month for a reply before. No business in the private sector would survive with customer service that poor. Currently waiting for a reply that will be useless once snow flies. I just assume that's what they're waiting for.  
 
The last time I called there, I was put on hold three times, phone went dead twice and the third time the person picked up but then hung up. I gave up.  
 
I am not surprised the city did not contact the lady who fell on the bus. Ignore the problem & it will go away. Eventually.

*enter name here* said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Reid said "    Johnbisonbear said "is making and I'm not sure why people aren't comprehending is that his friend fell while getting off the bus at the downtown bus terminal. Has no one seen city employees at the terminal clearing snow and spreading sand?     Plus I'm not sure why the young lady could not get an answer from the city office to do with her fall. What kind of managing is that? Sweep?     If someone falls at a business the very least people get is a phone call inquiring how things are going. " Very easy to jump on the "find every fault with my post" bandwagon , when most missed my point entirely !! She emailed them (more than once) and got no answer, im saying that maybe the lady from the OP did report it and like my girlfriends incident, they didnt answer !! Answer to what she was wearing, great running shoes with good traction (she just got off work) .... some of you need to put yourself in someone elses shoes for once in your life and have a little remorse. " there is not one good shoe out there that has good traction on ice. " so you have just stated a good point as to why ice needs to be chipped away or sanded , especially when on city owned property or any other kind of business... " I am sure they cannot be every place at one time. They could have been there earlier in the day...and it started to snow/rain...who knows.     But, if I am stepping off a bus, no matter what kind of shoes I have on, I am looking at one I am stepping onto and being very careful. Even being careful, I could fall....but I certainly would not be contacting someone about it, unless I ended up with broken bones and in the hospital.     If as Reid said his girlfriend tried to contact them and was in so much pain, she could not go to work. First of all, get a note from a doctor...is it a sprain, just twisted, etc. She got no reply. Take your letter and go to the City of Brandon office in person. Or, just chalk it up as a mishap and carry on.     Edited by Brenda, 2017-09-25 18:50:04" in a grocery store on water or a piece of lettuce wold you just brush it off and carry on? Lesson learned? " I have slipped on things in two public places. One at a hotel restaurant during the breakfast, I slipped on liquid that was spilt. I told them only so it could be cleaned up before someone else fell. Second place was at superstore. I wasn't wearing proper attire for it raining out and I slipped while look at vegetables. I got up and carried on.     Why are people expecting an apology? My goodness move on.     Ohh I also slipped outside of the BU library once during the winter. I was wearing vans that clearly have no grip. I didn't go running to them either to complain.     Such a sad world we live in today when everyone expects something for an accident caused by no one. "

so you are telling us that you fell because you don't wear proper foot wear? Not sure I'm getting your point.  
 
I fell at Superstore on the wet floor, not one staff member asked if I was okay! Told the cashier, she called a manager, he took my name and phone number and called me the next day to inquire how I was. I was fine but appreciated the phone call, it's called respect.

Sounds like accountability to me, do you have any idea the amount of people out there that try to "slip" in business establishments, and get free money, there are quite a few. And there are those that do that "professionally" and make a good living at it, I understand the investigative side of things from this, and also nobody is arguing the fact that the city is responsible for maintaining the bus stop down town, but it weather, cant conquer it, if you slide through a stop sign in the middle of winter, and hit another car, who do you blame? The city? Cause they didn't have the sand truck there 10 minutes before the accident, even though that intersection is their responsibility, and this is directed at nobody in particular just good for thought

Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Reid said "    Johnbisonbear said "is making and I'm not sure why people aren't comprehending is that his friend fell while getting off the bus at the downtown bus terminal. Has no one seen city employees at the terminal clearing snow and spreading sand?     Plus I'm not sure why the young lady could not get an answer from the city office to do with her fall. What kind of managing is that? Sweep?     If someone falls at a business the very least people get is a phone call inquiring how things are going. " Very easy to jump on the "find every fault with my post" bandwagon , when most missed my point entirely !! She emailed them (more than once) and got no answer, im saying that maybe the lady from the OP did report it and like my girlfriends incident, they didnt answer !! Answer to what she was wearing, great running shoes with good traction (she just got off work) .... some of you need to put yourself in someone elses shoes for once in your life and have a little remorse. " there is not one good shoe out there that has good traction on ice. " so you have just stated a good point as to why ice needs to be chipped away or sanded , especially when on city owned property or any other kind of business... " I am sure they cannot be every place at one time. They could have been there earlier in the day...and it started to snow/rain...who knows.     But, if I am stepping off a bus, no matter what kind of shoes I have on, I am looking at one I am stepping onto and being very careful. Even being careful, I could fall....but I certainly would not be contacting someone about it, unless I ended up with broken bones and in the hospital.     If as Reid said his girlfriend tried to contact them and was in so much pain, she could not go to work. First of all, get a note from a doctor...is it a sprain, just twisted, etc. She got no reply. Take your letter and go to the City of Brandon office in person. Or, just chalk it up as a mishap and carry on.     Edited by Brenda, 2017-09-25 18:50:04" in a grocery store on water or a piece of lettuce wold you just brush it off and carry on? Lesson learned? " depends on if I was watching were I was walking.     If I was looking at something else and just walking along, well, I guess I should have been watching were I was walking. Think about it, things are on the floor at a lot of stores, you could slip and fall just as the cleaner was coming to clean it up. But, all it takes is being careful, aware of your surroundings and taking accountability. Accidents happen all the time......we carry on.     Everyone wants to blame someone these days. " you do live in Brandon right?     So I guess in the winter you don't shovel or clear ice off your 'city-owned' front sidewalk? After all you just said that people need to watch where they are walking.     The city is looking at a residential snow clearing bylaw where residents would have to keep their sidewalks clear of snow and ice. WHY? Oh, no brainer I guess, to keep people walking safe so they don't wipe out!     If you were out with an elderly relative and they fell in a business what would you expect the business to do? Nothing? " I am the first one out there shoveling, when it snows. I clear all my property and the sidewalk, sometimes even the neighbors.     But I still watch were I am walking.     When it snows this winter, just message me and come look how clean my sidewalk is. Can't say that about everyone's.     Have you never slipped, had an accident, cloned, so you can be in two places at once? Sometime I clear everything and it is still snowing, so then I go out again later.     So, the city also can't be everywhere at once. Maybe the cleared the bus center and it was still snowing, went to some other city property and will come back and do the bus center again.     But it is only common sense and accountability, which I am mature enough to understand and take blame if I am not paying attention, as I said I did in my first post when I ran into the back of another car. I was told my numerous people when that happened to look into it, as it was against the law to keep your trailer hitch on your vehicle if you are not towing something (I don't want to get into that, if it is a law or not). I did not look into if that was true or not, I took accountability for my driving that day. End of story.     If I was out with the elderly (which I have been), normally any business will have a manager or assistant manager on duty. They would probably be notified. They may or may not offer some help. But if it was an elderly that just fell in a business, why would that business be expected to do anything....they are old, frail, they fall. " to spell it out for you.     If a person falls on a wet floor or on frayed carpet at a business, never mind if they are elderly, should the manager of the business offer care or support to the victim or just tell them to not be so clumsy or better yet not to grace their place again? "

Take accountability.  
 
If I was with an elderly person who are frail, I would be watching where I am walking, so I would be watching for them too.  
 
A manager or assistant manager would be in the store. It the person who fell, did not need first aid or a trip to the hospital...I would address the frayed carpet or whatever to the manager. I sure would not expect anything.  
 
You do not get that accidents happen. Some people are too busy texting to even watch were they are walking, some are looking around at what is a head of them. Both, not paying attention.  
 
No, in all likely hood, no serious injuries, I would expect a sorry for the store...but only because they would have some kind of manager on duty and I would accept that.

Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Reid said "    Johnbisonbear said "is making and I'm not sure why people aren't comprehending is that his friend fell while getting off the bus at the downtown bus terminal. Has no one seen city employees at the terminal clearing snow and spreading sand?     Plus I'm not sure why the young lady could not get an answer from the city office to do with her fall. What kind of managing is that? Sweep?     If someone falls at a business the very least people get is a phone call inquiring how things are going. " Very easy to jump on the "find every fault with my post" bandwagon , when most missed my point entirely !! She emailed them (more than once) and got no answer, im saying that maybe the lady from the OP did report it and like my girlfriends incident, they didnt answer !! Answer to what she was wearing, great running shoes with good traction (she just got off work) .... some of you need to put yourself in someone elses shoes for once in your life and have a little remorse. " there is not one good shoe out there that has good traction on ice. " so you have just stated a good point as to why ice needs to be chipped away or sanded , especially when on city owned property or any other kind of business... " I am sure they cannot be every place at one time. They could have been there earlier in the day...and it started to snow/rain...who knows.     But, if I am stepping off a bus, no matter what kind of shoes I have on, I am looking at one I am stepping onto and being very careful. Even being careful, I could fall....but I certainly would not be contacting someone about it, unless I ended up with broken bones and in the hospital.     If as Reid said his girlfriend tried to contact them and was in so much pain, she could not go to work. First of all, get a note from a doctor...is it a sprain, just twisted, etc. She got no reply. Take your letter and go to the City of Brandon office in person. Or, just chalk it up as a mishap and carry on.     Edited by Brenda, 2017-09-25 18:50:04" in a grocery store on water or a piece of lettuce wold you just brush it off and carry on? Lesson learned? " depends on if I was watching were I was walking.     If I was looking at something else and just walking along, well, I guess I should have been watching were I was walking. Think about it, things are on the floor at a lot of stores, you could slip and fall just as the cleaner was coming to clean it up. But, all it takes is being careful, aware of your surroundings and taking accountability. Accidents happen all the time......we carry on.     Everyone wants to blame someone these days. " you do live in Brandon right?     So I guess in the winter you don't shovel or clear ice off your 'city-owned' front sidewalk? After all you just said that people need to watch where they are walking.     The city is looking at a residential snow clearing bylaw where residents would have to keep their sidewalks clear of snow and ice. WHY? Oh, no brainer I guess, to keep people walking safe so they don't wipe out!     If you were out with an elderly relative and they fell in a business what would you expect the business to do? Nothing? " I am the first one out there shoveling, when it snows. I clear all my property and the sidewalk, sometimes even the neighbors.     But I still watch were I am walking.     When it snows this winter, just message me and come look how clean my sidewalk is. Can't say that about everyone's.     Have you never slipped, had an accident, cloned, so you can be in two places at once? Sometime I clear everything and it is still snowing, so then I go out again later.     So, the city also can't be everywhere at once. Maybe the cleared the bus center and it was still snowing, went to some other city property and will come back and do the bus center again.     But it is only common sense and accountability, which I am mature enough to understand and take blame if I am not paying attention, as I said I did in my first post when I ran into the back of another car. I was told my numerous people when that happened to look into it, as it was against the law to keep your trailer hitch on your vehicle if you are not towing something (I don't want to get into that, if it is a law or not). I did not look into if that was true or not, I took accountability for my driving that day. End of story.     If I was out with the elderly (which I have been), normally any business will have a manager or assistant manager on duty. They would probably be notified. They may or may not offer some help. But if it was an elderly that just fell in a business, why would that business be expected to do anything....they are old, frail, they fall. " to spell it out for you.     If a person falls on a wet floor or on frayed carpet at a business, never mind if they are elderly, should the manager of the business offer care or support to the victim or just tell them to not be so clumsy or better yet not to grace their place again? " Take accountability.     If I was with an elderly person who are frail, I would be watching where I am walking, so I would be watching for them too.     A manager or assistant manager would be in the store. It the person who fell, did not need first aid or a trip to the hospital...I would address the frayed carpet or whatever to the manager. I sure would not expect anything.     You do not get that accidents happen. Some people are too busy texting to even watch were they are walking, some are looking around at what is a head of them. Both, not paying attention.     No, in all likely hood, no serious injuries, I would expect a sorry for the store...but only because they would have some kind of manager on duty and I would accept that. "

accidents happen! Sometimes in a millisecond and there's no stopping them.  
 
You talk about accountability... yes sometimes accountability is paying for a parent's care rather than insisting they die in a hospital rather than dying in a PCH, People die in PCH all the time, just like choosing to die at home, it's considered their home.

Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Johnbisonbear said "    Brenda said "    Reid said "    Johnbisonbear said "is making and I'm not sure why people aren't comprehending is that his friend fell while getting off the bus at the downtown bus terminal. Has no one seen city employees at the terminal clearing snow and spreading sand?     Plus I'm not sure why the young lady could not get an answer from the city office to do with her fall. What kind of managing is that? Sweep?     If someone falls at a business the very least people get is a phone call inquiring how things are going. " Very easy to jump on the "find every fault with my post" bandwagon , when most missed my point entirely !! She emailed them (more than once) and got no answer, im saying that maybe the lady from the OP did report it and like my girlfriends incident, they didnt answer !! Answer to what she was wearing, great running shoes with good traction (she just got off work) .... some of you need to put yourself in someone elses shoes for once in your life and have a little remorse. " there is not one good shoe out there that has good traction on ice. " so you have just stated a good point as to why ice needs to be chipped away or sanded , especially when on city owned property or any other kind of business... " I am sure they cannot be every place at one time. They could have been there earlier in the day...and it started to snow/rain...who knows.     But, if I am stepping off a bus, no matter what kind of shoes I have on, I am looking at one I am stepping onto and being very careful. Even being careful, I could fall....but I certainly would not be contacting someone about it, unless I ended up with broken bones and in the hospital.     If as Reid said his girlfriend tried to contact them and was in so much pain, she could not go to work. First of all, get a note from a doctor...is it a sprain, just twisted, etc. She got no reply. Take your letter and go to the City of Brandon office in person. Or, just chalk it up as a mishap and carry on.     Edited by Brenda, 2017-09-25 18:50:04" in a grocery store on water or a piece of lettuce wold you just brush it off and carry on? Lesson learned? " depends on if I was watching were I was walking.     If I was looking at something else and just walking along, well, I guess I should have been watching were I was walking. Think about it, things are on the floor at a lot of stores, you could slip and fall just as the cleaner was coming to clean it up. But, all it takes is being careful, aware of your surroundings and taking accountability. Accidents happen all the time......we carry on.     Everyone wants to blame someone these days. " you do live in Brandon right?     So I guess in the winter you don't shovel or clear ice off your 'city-owned' front sidewalk? After all you just said that people need to watch where they are walking.     The city is looking at a residential snow clearing bylaw where residents would have to keep their sidewalks clear of snow and ice. WHY? Oh, no brainer I guess, to keep people walking safe so they don't wipe out!     If you were out with an elderly relative and they fell in a business what would you expect the business to do? Nothing? " I am the first one out there shoveling, when it snows. I clear all my property and the sidewalk, sometimes even the neighbors.     But I still watch were I am walking.     When it snows this winter, just message me and come look how clean my sidewalk is. Can't say that about everyone's.     Have you never slipped, had an accident, cloned, so you can be in two places at once? Sometime I clear everything and it is still snowing, so then I go out again later.     So, the city also can't be everywhere at once. Maybe the cleared the bus center and it was still snowing, went to some other city property and will come back and do the bus center again.     But it is only common sense and accountability, which I am mature enough to understand and take blame if I am not paying attention, as I said I did in my first post when I ran into the back of another car. I was told my numerous people when that happened to look into it, as it was against the law to keep your trailer hitch on your vehicle if you are not towing something (I don't want to get into that, if it is a law or not). I did not look into if that was true or not, I took accountability for my driving that day. End of story.     If I was out with the elderly (which I have been), normally any business will have a manager or assistant manager on duty. They would probably be notified. They may or may not offer some help. But if it was an elderly that just fell in a business, why would that business be expected to do anything....they are old, frail, they fall. " to spell it out for you.     If a person falls on a wet floor or on frayed carpet at a business, never mind if they are elderly, should the manager of the business offer care or support to the victim or just tell them to not be so clumsy or better yet not to grace their place again? " Take accountability.     If I was with an elderly person who are frail, I would be watching where I am walking, so I would be watching for them too.     A manager or assistant manager would be in the store. It the person who fell, did not need first aid or a trip to the hospital...I would address the frayed carpet or whatever to the manager. I sure would not expect anything.     You do not get that accidents happen. Some people are too busy texting to even watch were they are walking, some are looking around at what is a head of them. Both, not paying attention.     No, in all likely hood, no serious injuries, I would expect a sorry for the store...but only because they would have some kind of manager on duty and I would accept that. " accidents happen! Sometimes in a millisecond and there's no stopping them.     You talk about accountability... yes sometimes accountability is paying for a parent's care rather than insisting they die in a hospital rather than dying in a PCH, People die in PCH all the time, just like choosing to die at home, it's considered their home. "

and this is so far off topic...  
 
But if I could have looked after my mom for the 17 months she lay in a hospital bed with 2 tumors, I would have.  
 
But, I could not. She needed to be lifted out of bed, in a wheel chair, could not eat by herself, could not talk, could not go to the bathroom. But my house was not equipped for a hi-lift or wheel chair unfortunately. I was also hospitalized myself during that time.  
 
RIP -mom  
 
I am done - I take accountability, I watch my surroundings....you have made this a war of words and taken it far off topic - I am done! All I know is what I would have done!  
 
Edited by Brenda, 2017-09-27 08:27:05

1. The lady herself said that she did not bother to contact the city. How can she expect a reply if she did not contact them.  
2. Do you all think that the city should be apologizing for ice being on the road and sidewalk, the city didn't put it their. They can't be every where all the time clearing snow. Take some responsibility and watch were you are going when it's winter outside and you know it might be icey or else watch every bodies taxes go up because we are paying 100 times more for clear sidewalks all of the time.  
3. The buses don't have seatbelts. anyone who rides in a vehicle without a seatbelt should know that there is a chance they might stop fast, and they should be holding on. there were lots of other people on the bus who did not get hurt, probably because they knew to hold on. Again, take some responsibility.  
4. What is everybody saying when they call the city? are you asking to talk to someone about fixing the problem, or asking for money? If you are calling the city, it is easy to get a response if you just tell them what you are looking for. If the person that answers doesn't know your answer just ask to talk to someone else. I have never had any problems getting answers from them.  
5. The bus driver did try to help her she said so herself. He would have been arrested if he made her stay on the bus. Besides she said that she was okay and walked away. if he sawe her walk away why would he try to tackel her to make her stay and force her to take an ambulance if she didn't want help. he did the right thing by not getting into an accident and by checking on her and giving her information to contact transit and by letting her go when she did not want any of his help.

to put themselves in that victim's shoes. The lady was so frail she could not sit and stay on the bus seat.  
 
The lady is 79, perhaps she has some dementia? Quite possible at that age.  
 
And yes, the city is responsible for what happens ON their buses, wth don't you people think they are not? The city is responsible for the driver's mistakes while driving the bus. Why do people think not?

all I remember is that you were quite upset that your Mom was going to be panelled to go into a nursing home and that she would have to start paying the associated costs. I recall that I supported you. But the health system considers PCH as the client's home therefore there is a push to put people to live and yes die in the facilities.  
 
It seems you don't care what you post as long as you kinda/sorta agree with yourself in the end.