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I think we will be losing a lot of great Health Care workers who will have had enough of the RHAs and this government. Health care workers have been stretched to their max for many years. Working short or double shifts but now with all of the attacks on health care, it is only going to get worse. Many going on stress leave or just quitting. We all used to feel so proud to care for people but now when we know that we can't give the quality of care we would like to, and that they deserve. it breaks our hearts. It seems as though it is the governments plan to have qualified workers leave the profession so they can outsource the work at bottom level wages. They are taking advantage of new Canadians, knowing that they will accept lower wages and standards because they have no choice. Health Care workers are a caring lot, that is why they got into health Care to begin with. Then when a crisis happens, (which there is bound to be more of) the public blames the workers. When you are rushed in and out of a Dr''s office, or the patients or residents are rushed, we blame the workers. The public has no idea the pressure to do more for less that these workers are under. The more demands on the workers, the more that leave. Also the more pressure, the more errors. Sadly these errors can be fatal. Terrifying! This leaves added demands on the workers that are left. Moral for health care workers is at an all time low. So sad that this government doesn''t care about Manitobans enough to ensure that they get the care that they deserve. It is a vicious circle. And we all know that there is scarier times ahead.  
 
Edited by justme, 2017-09-17 01:44:18

The previous post was posted when I read this on my Facebook feed.  
 
"Everyone keeps talking about continuing to "provide great patient care", that all the health care staff will do as they always have, and provide the same level of care, as always. What if we can't? What if losing our jobs, being forced to bump our less senior coworkers out of their own positions, losing our childcare or having to search for additional help when we have to work totally different schedules, not seeing our spouses/partners when we have to work opposite shifts for the first time in years, actually does impact patient care?  
See, here's the thing........when you take away someones choice, their source of income and job stability, their right to information that directly impacts every part of their life.......it eventually leads to depression, anxiety, lack of concentration (in a very high stress environment), and loss of morale. Sick time increases, stress leave increases, work-place injuries, medication errors, and patient care that is sub-par. Unfamiliar staff bump up to the unit/into a position, many times into an area that they haven't been trained for. Staff to patient ratios are inadequate, so training those new staff properly can be very difficult, when you are running around, trying to maintain the same level of patient care that we always have. Of course we will all do our best, because that's what we do. But our best now may not be the same as it was before. Its just the best we can do with the circumstances that have been forced upon us. And some days, that's not going to be good enough."

The only one that thinks these cutbacks and job losses are going to snowball into something even worse that it already is?  
 
Those that can't find work either move or go on assistance/EI, taxes from those paychecks are now gone. Furthering the strain on the rest of the taxpayers.  
 
Nurses that are new, or going through the nursing program,  
what message does this send to you?  
If I were in the middle of the nursing program or even about to graduate, I would be looking for jobs elsewhere. Possibly even out of the country. Again, taxes from future paychecks are gone.  
 
Everyone says the government has a mess to clean up, and pay off a deficit that will never go away.  
Meanwhile, people are loosing their jobs. And not everyone has a spouse to carry them until they find another one.  
The fact that my neighbours are ok with all this bullsh!t because it will not directly affect them (until they need stitches and have to wait 5 hours to get them) sickens me.

Do the taxpayers owe this deficit to?  
Does anyone actually know?  
 
Edited by Mauve, 2017-09-17 09:37:34

Mauve said "The only one that thinks these cutbacks and job losses are going to snowball into something even worse that it already is?     Those that can't find work either move or go on assistance/EI, taxes from those paychecks are now gone. Furthering the strain on the rest of the taxpayers.     Nurses that are new, or going through the nursing program,   what message does this send to you?   If I were in the middle of the nursing program or even about to graduate, I would be looking for jobs elsewhere. Possibly even out of the country. Again, taxes from future paychecks are gone.     Everyone says the government has a mess to clean up, and pay off a deficit that will never go away.   Meanwhile, people are loosing their jobs. And not everyone has a spouse to carry them until they find another one.   The fact that my neighbours are ok with all this bullsh!t because it will not directly affect them (until they need stitches and have to wait 5 hours to get them) sickens me. "

don't get is this is NOT a new thing! I hear lots of blame being put on the current government, but only being in this province since the previous leadership, this has been going on for the last 16yrs of me being in this province. Wait times have always been long anytime I have been to emergency and rural hospitals have been running on a skeleton crew or having to close the emerg. due to shortages forever. Ambulances sitting empty due to lack of Paramedics and Dr's coming and going (mainly going). So now that the current government is trying to cut costs, which sometimes means jobs how is much going to change....other then instead of paying for employees to be off and hospitals/services closed due to shortages. We will not be paying wages for the same hospitals/services to be closed. I know it sucks to have jobs cut, I had mine cut in the private sector and had to relocate and change jobs as well as a 30% wage cut,to go with the times in the current economic state we are in and also have a spouse just getting into the healthcare field, but it's unfortunately all part of life.  
I don't know what the solution is or if this current band-aid will fix the problem, but someone has to try something to try to fix an already broken system. I guess the other option is everyone in the healthcare career could take a major cut in pay (which is already less then what they should be paid for what they do), but I don't see that happening or going over well. I just don't see a fix no matter who's in leadership (ndp, libs, cons) without major cuts and changes.

I fully agree that the health care system is in big trouble and that there are no easy answers. However, I don't agree with the OP's statement:  
 
It seems as though it is the governments plan to have qualified workers leave the profession so they can outsource the work at bottom level wages. They are taking advantage of new Canadians, knowing that they will accept lower wages and standards because they have no choice.  
 
Do you have a source of evidence for this?

curlysister said "I fully agree that the health care system is in big trouble and that there are no easy answers. However, I don't agree with the OP's statement:     It seems as though it is the governments plan to have qualified workers leave the profession so they can outsource the work at bottom level wages. They are taking advantage of new Canadians, knowing that they will accept lower wages and standards because they have no choice.     Do you have a source of evidence for this? "

like to know of the Feds kick in a percentage of the newcomer's wage, whatever their employment might be.

hospitalized for far too many months we got to witness the invaluable work and care the HCAs administer to patients. IMO they do not make enough money for what they have to perform. They work their a**es off and can't stop because the patients do not stop needing care!  
 
I worry about what this current government is doing to healthcare.

Need to fix the mess they were left with either services get cut or users pay fees. Tax payers can not be expected to take another raise in tax. Or here is an idea quit giving aid to the entire world.

Need to be restructured. The nurses need to perform more nursing duties to take the stress off of the hospitals and more family involvement in some aspects. The idea that you can "dump" an elderly person in a home and ever look back has to disappear!

Mauve said "Do the taxpayers owe this deficit to?   Does anyone actually know?     Edited by Mauve, 2017-09-17 09:37:34"

issue "interest" paying bonds for purchase. Theses "issues", aka bonds are bought by investors. Deficits & Debt are coverred by issued bonds. The simple answer to your question is that the government owes money to investors from various parts of the world, not just Canadian investors. Defaulting on a debt/payment would be extremly bad for a province or Canada as it would seriously affect the credit rating of the defaulter and making it more expensive through higher interest payments on future bonds. FYI, 2016/17 Manitoba's principal and interest amounted to 5.6% of every tax dollar collected.

Im a new nurse in former arha. Theres over 80 open until filled lpn/rn jobs on the website. They need us more than we need them. Tons of hours open but i just work my minimum eft. No shortage of hours for us, yes a shortage of staff.