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How can the US have any say in what Russia is doing when they do this. Only a blip on CBC and CNN. Check out the BBC for the unfiltered version.

Here is the link to the CBC story:  
 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/afghanistan-kunduz-airstrike-1.3255546?cmp=rss  
 
I DO NOT want our planes and troops involved in such a quagmire. The US and allies have been involved in the region for 25 years. Can we demonstrate that the world is a safer place as a result ?  

Canada should never have had any involvement there. There are no good guys, it seems. Even the Afghan "allies" are horrible.  
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html?_r=1  

The yanks have owned up. Mistakes happen. In this case it was a Doctors without borders facility so they say.  
 
Well marked ?? Long standing facility? No matter. On the ground intelligence was bad. Yes Canada can let others do the hard work.  
 
The left in this country might as well use the term knocked around in the last century. Isolationist. The words leave it over there lord from McLean and McLean is the lefts new mantra.  
 
I will say though the left is willing to do the easy part. Send funds, people to feed water and treat people. Fast track people out of the area. humanitarian aid is important but will go on forever without the hard part.  
 

Not wanting to drop bombs on hospitals and civilians is not isolationist. It is opposition to war mongering.  
 
How have all these years and trillions of dollars on planes and troops in the Middle East made the world safer ?  
 
I would like to see Canada return to the days of peacekeeping, when we were respected throughout the world.  
 
You wrote about the hard part and easy part. The true easy part is to sit in a comfortable chair in a warm and secure home in Canada and call on others to do the hard part.  
 
The bombs and boots on the ground work very well at encouraging residents of those countries to become terrorists. We would likely react the same way if troops from some foreign power came into Canada to "encourage" us, through bombing and military action, to live our lives according to their values.

I find it a bit appalling that after a very long silence on the Afghan mission as we and the Americans had largely pulled out that suddenly now so many start to care again about Afghan civilians. Tragically, the only crocodile tears our people over here seem able to summon up are for Afghan's that die from American action, any other cause of death is completely ignored by the media dismissed by the public.  
 
For the record Afghan civilians continued dying after we pulled out, and continued dying after American stepped back it's operations. In fact, unsurprisingly the death tolls got worse in those years, and nobody seemed to be on here crying over the tragedy.  
 
If you'd like to be better informed, by pass our media and follow Al Jazeera once in awhile and you'd have been able to see coverage of the continued suffering I listed. Most particularly, the events that led up to the American action everyone is so sickened by today was covered by them. The Taliban had largely taken control of the city of Kunduz. Here's Al Jazeera's reporting of what Amnesty International found happening on the groun then:  
Amnesty International's recent report on the conflict in Kunduz said mass murders, gang rapes and house-to-house searches were carried out by Taliban death squads while they had control of the city.  
 
But go ahead and focus on the mistakes America made while tryign to help reclaim the city...

The first war that has ever been fought in the world? Nope!!! Will it be the last? Nope! So what do we do? Seriously?? Who has a plausible answer...just because you are human does not take away the fact that you are expendable. Everyone is expendable..so even if you are sitting in your warm comfy arm chair shouting at the TV from the comfort of your "FREEDOM" you are still just a mere pawn that can be knocked over to save the so called "Queen".  
Who was is that said if you want peace, prepare for war? We are at war with our own people right now over this upcoming election. Make no mistake..political war propoganda is a form of war mongering. Give it more time and we will have a civil war. In a way it's already here. So for all you armchair quarter backs..remember the term expendable. When it comes to war your life means nothing.  

standard standard h8r said "Not wanting to drop bombs on hospitals and civilians is not isolationist. It is opposition to war mongering.     How have all these years and trillions of dollars on planes and troops in the Middle East made the world safer ?     I would like to see Canada return to the days of peacekeeping, when we were respected throughout the world.     You wrote about the hard part and easy part. The true easy part is to sit in a comfortable chair in a warm and secure home in Canada and call on others to do the hard part.     The bombs and boots on the ground work very well at encouraging residents of those countries to become terrorists. We would likely react the same way if troops from some foreign power came into Canada to "encourage" us, through bombing and military action, to live our lives according to their values. "

We are still respected in the world. That is a given. Canada was and could be great peacekeepers again. Peacekeeping was a short term job for our armed forces when you look at our history.  
 
We can do the peacekeeping thing again but the UN did not have our backs then nor will they now.  
 
Peacekeeping can not be forced on any area without that area being safe. We, well I do not know of any NGO's that want to provide food/water schools and such in a area where groups with guns do not want it.  
 
Peacekeeping today unlike days of old would require taking sides. Instead of separating two warring parties you have a crap load.  
 
As a co in peacekeeping it is difficult to keep two sides apart but doable. Any more than that is near impossible.  
 

If you think our Afgain allies are a the good guys over there you are uninformed and blind to the facts. Drug dealers , embezzlers,and let's not forget child rapist. We have no clue who if anyone over there is the good guy. Till then we just seem to follow the US's lead and so far their track record of picking the good guy is 0 for the last 20 years.

https://www.rt.com/news/317612-msf-independent-investigation-kunduz/  
 
This is an article on a russian based media website that shows a different slant of what youre hearing over here, or lack there of. Also check out the website to find different stories if interest, it's always good to see both sides …