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Well , another truck tried to deliver a bridge at Kemnay on PTH 1A today.

on Facebook, he actually made it all the way to the other side.

Was likely due. Its been a almost a couple years since the last one.  
 
If it made it through I'm assuming it was likely a van trailer, not particularily hard to peel the top off.  
 
What direction was it going?

Ms.Daisy said "Was likely due. Its been a almost a couple years since the last one.     If it made it through I'm assuming it was likely a van trailer, not particularily hard to peel the top off.     What direction was it going? "

Westbound.

Definitely did some damage.  
 

Semi hits CP rail tracks in Kemnay. #bdnmb #Westman https://t.co/Kmw0PSDOZc pic.twitter.com/cPNCfwnfAh

&mdash: QCountry Brandon, MB (@QCountrynews) February 9, 2018

Trevor B said "on Facebook, he actually made it all the way to the other side. "

Sure rammed it right through like a can opener.  
 
Looks bad when they don't know the height of their rig.

there isn't a camera at that location. It would of been interesting to see how he made it all the way through.  
 
Just to show how you can have all the warnings and drivers still ignore them. here's a compilation of greatest hits from one in the US. The 11Foot8 Bridge camera.  
 

I still think instead of yellow flashing lights it should be red. Yellow is caution red is stop!

 
 
Newer video of 11Foot8 bridge with improved detection and signage.  
 
 
 
Kemnay, must be the northern cousin to these ones.

maxster said "    Trevor B said "on Facebook, he actually made it all the way to the other side. " Sure rammed it right through like a can opener.     Looks bad when they don't know the height of their rig. "

And looks worse when they can’t see/read all those signs, flashing lights, etc. How do these drivers get licensed? And do they keep said licence after these incidents? I know there are plenty of responsible truckers. The ones that aren’t should not be out there with their large, dangerous, loaded weapons.

Seems crazy that the fine for this is $220!! Think of all the other fines that are out there that are way higher.

Mama3 said "I still think instead of yellow flashing lights it should be red. Yellow is caution red is stop! "

Except it's not telling them to stop. It's telling them they are overheight and to use the detour either down Pioneer Road or by the mailboxes.  
 
That's a great picture The Young Man, he was definitely going at speed and likely never even braked. Would of been a wild ride!

For disobeying a traffic control device. Never mind points on his license, explaining this to his insurer, destroyed the trailer, spilled $100K worth of product on the road.

If you have ever driven a semi, gotten directions from a company, told exactly where to go, and how to get out, and you are driving where you are told, it's a new road to you speed limit is 90-100 and you see yellow flashing lights of to the side, you are not thinking of stopping. Like one other poster said, why is it not a red light. When I see amber I think where is the accident and start looking around for such, not how high is the bridge. I almost ran into a bridge in sask once. I was told exactly what route to take because I was 12 ft wide and 15ft 8 inches high I almost caught a rail bridge but saw it on time. I had to turn a semi around on 2 lanes and 2 shoulders. drive against traffic for 1/2 mile to turn off else where. I drove where it was legal weight but to high. When you drive a big rig and you have to be carful because some idiot has almost made you crash already and you are watching a hundred different things a bridge like kemney looks like you have room and I can see people hitting it. there should be a red light or they need to close it off all together. We know how high we are but sometimes the powers that be do not. You get a oversize load permit they tell you where to go, and if you hit something following there instructions you are still held responsible.. Because of this I like to pre drive my route sometimes but you can't do that 500 miles from home. I also drove a road that had been driven many times before with the same load, well low and behold they fixed it up and added almost 2 ft to the road and my it was nice and smooth. I caught a few wires, never ripped but I saw them move, was still a legal load on my permits. But you won't catch me any where near there again.

Needs to get a steel guard rail up a short way before the bridge, at the height of the bridge. I've seen them in use in the US and they make complete sense - especially when the cost to repair bridges is so astronomical.  
 
That way these oblivious drivers would hit and destroy their trucks before the bridge instead.

First off, keep the lights - possibly making them blinking red. After the lights, but BEFORE the bridge, install a solid barrier. One the would not come down when hit, but be much more cost effective in repairing/replacing. That way, they will hit the early barrier, rather than the actual bridge. Since it is a barrier designed with repairs from this in mind, it should save a lot of money.  
 
Won't help the truck, but pretty sure many drivers are beyond help. Otherwise this would not happen so much. I guess you could even develop something that would hit the truck, and they rotate out of the way? Could make repairs more expensive though. Either way, something they hit before the more expensive bridge.

I get fixing the issue will cost money, but why not try to fix it?  
 
I mean if the province could make a new 110 so semi’s were not having to use Chater hill, and people weren’t getting backed up by waiting for a train to go by, then why can’t kemney be fixed? I’m sure if they dug deep enough they could change the grade of the road leading up to the bridge so semi’s don’t get stuck.  
 
And no I’m not trying to pick any fights with anyone, it’s a legitimate question.

If the load on the truck was frozen pork was it picked up at Maple Leaf?  
 
If it was why didn''t he take the bypass on the east end? That was what it was built for.  
 
Edited by oldcowgirl, 2018-02-09 12:14:25

oldcowgirl said "If the load on the truck was frozen pork was it picked up at Maple Leaf?     If it was why didn''t he take the bypass on the east end? That was what it was built for.     Edited by oldcowgirl, 2018-02-09 12:14:25"

 
 
Edited by JoBeth, 2018-02-09 12:43:12

kevun said "If you have ever driven a semi, gotten directions from a company, told exactly where to go, and how to get out, and you are driving where you are told, it's a new road to you speed limit is 90-100 and you see yellow flashing lights of to the side, you are not thinking of stopping. Like one other poster said, why is it not a red light. When I see amber I think where is the accident and start looking around for such, not how high is the bridge. I almost ran into a bridge in sask once. I was told exactly what route to take because I was 12 ft wide and 15ft 8 inches high I almost caught a rail bridge but saw it on time. I had to turn a semi around on 2 lanes and 2 shoulders. drive against traffic for 1/2 mile to turn off else where. I drove where it was legal weight but to high. When you drive a big rig and you have to be carful because some idiot has almost made you crash already and you are watching a hundred different things a bridge like kemney looks like you have room and I can see people hitting it. there should be a red light or they need to close it off all together. We know how high we are but sometimes the powers that be do not. You get a oversize load permit they tell you where to go, and if you hit something following there instructions you are still held responsible.. Because of this I like to pre drive my route sometimes but you can't do that 500 miles from home. I also drove a road that had been driven many times before with the same load, well low and behold they fixed it up and added almost 2 ft to the road and my it was nice and smooth. I caught a few wires, never ripped but I saw them move, was still a legal load on my permits. But you won't catch me any where near there again. "

Well said!!!  
 
Most people think semi driving is easy...nothing could be further from the truth, especially if you are unfamiliar with the area you are driving in.

I totally agree - - something to stop these idiotic accidents for once and all. It's obvious that either the guys hitting the bridge don't speak or understand English or they are just stupid. There are numerous and easy to see signs back far enough for these jerks to stop and either turn around or take the indicated bypass. Just makes one shake their head when there are at least two accidents a year. These guys should have the book thrown at them.

Man it is like I have been psychic lately. I was driving out to a customer yesterday and drove under the bridge thinking that it has been a while since this bridge was hit. Well bloody hell when a fireman responder passed me on the Hwy 1, we both turn into Kemnay and tells me I need to go around. I bought a lotto ticket last night too. Can't see that coming true though.

I think he or the trucking firm will get the bill from the railroad for repairs etc.

You better hope that lotto ticket comes thru, seeing as this is all yer fault. Yer gonna get the bill for a bridge.

A sea container, how ever fast must he of been going to destroy that, it''s all welded steel construction and clamped to the trailer. it''s not some light construction box trailer  
 
As for the comments of have you ever driven a semi and all that. There are signs lights and heights posted. you are supposed to be a professional driver and know these measurements and follow signs.  
 
I don''t have a class 1 due to I couldn''t be bothered with all the BS and now can''t pass the medical anyway for a health reason either.  
 
But I have operated large machinery for years. I know if it will fit through a gap or under a doorway before I hit it.  
 
This is full on driver stupidity, or not being able to read a common language that is written or spoken in Canada. My old boss has told me of the horror stories of the "new Canadian" delivery drivers he gets that speak no english and he''s trying to explain what they need to do or how to get somewhere else when they point to the next delivery ticket.  
 
If this is what happened the government need to stop giving these guys tests in their own language with interpreters. once they pass they are on their own technically driving missiles  
 
we are lucky more people aren''t getting killed in Accidents these guys could cause when they are on the road alone after the tests. It''s common to see 4 trucks follow with the guy in front being the one that knows the way and understands whats going on, if one stops they all stop to stay together.  
 
Edited by Farmboy74, 2018-02-09 13:50:53

Until its not there it wont stop,only reason a out of town truckers on that road is because he doesnt know its there,and satellite or dispatch that dont know, can even route you down there, there are endless distractions drop your coffee smoke loud noise the frigin phone #1 suspect, to distract you then your at the bridge most try and stop or slow down a few barrel right on through, and the fine is not their biggest problem safety bonuses, insurance rates down time, irate customers bridge owners, just surprised it doesnt hapen more often really.

Farmboy74 said "A sea container, how ever fast must he of been going to destroy that, it''s all welded steel construction and clamped to the trailer. it''s not some light construction box trailer     As for the comments of have you ever driven a semi and all that. There are signs lights and heights posted. you are supposed to be a professional driver and know these measurements and follow signs.     I don''t have a class 1 due to I couldn''t be bothered with all the BS and now can''t pass the medical anyway for a health reason either.     But I have operated large machinery for years. I know if it will fit through a gap or under a doorway before I hit it.     This is full on driver stupidity, or not being able to read a common language that is written or spoken in Canada. My old boss has told me of the horror stories of the "new Canadian" delivery drivers he gets that speak no english and he''s trying to explain what they need to do or how to get somewhere else when they point to the next delivery ticket.     If this is what happened the government need to stop giving these guys tests in their own language with interpreters. once they pass they are on their own technically driving missiles     we are lucky more people aren''t getting killed in Accidents these guys could cause when they are on the road alone after the tests. It''s common to see 4 trucks follow with the guy in front being the one that knows the way and understands whats going on, if one stops they all stop to stay together.     Edited by Farmboy74, 2018-02-09 13:50:53"

It was happening long before immigrant drivers was a thing anything short of memorizing where ever low bridge in north america is training isnt going to help and farm machinery really farmers still hit shit low power lines shed doors a fare amount ask any farmer with kids lol my #1

It is one thing to get routed on the wrong road, and quite another to hit a bridge because you ignored the flashing lights. As a driver it is your job to watch the road and know the yellow flashing lights mean something: Caution! problem ahead. Dont know what the lights are warning you about? Then slow down and pay attention! If you are too tired, or too distracted to notice tbe lights then you shouldn't be driving. What a lame bunch of excuses some of you have.

Midway55 said "    Farmboy74 said "A sea container, how ever fast must he of been going to destroy that, it''s all welded steel construction and clamped to the trailer. it''s not some light construction box trailer     As for the comments of have you ever driven a semi and all that. There are signs lights and heights posted. you are supposed to be a professional driver and know these measurements and follow signs.     I don''t have a class 1 due to I couldn''t be bothered with all the BS and now can''t pass the medical anyway for a health reason either.     But I have operated large machinery for years. I know if it will fit through a gap or under a doorway before I hit it.     This is full on driver stupidity, or not being able to read a common language that is written or spoken in Canada. My old boss has told me of the horror stories of the "new Canadian" delivery drivers he gets that speak no english and he''s trying to explain what they need to do or how to get somewhere else when they point to the next delivery ticket.     If this is what happened the government need to stop giving these guys tests in their own language with interpreters. once they pass they are on their own technically driving missiles     we are lucky more people aren''t getting killed in Accidents these guys could cause when they are on the road alone after the tests. It''s common to see 4 trucks follow with the guy in front being the one that knows the way and understands whats going on, if one stops they all stop to stay together.     Edited by Farmboy74, 2018-02-09 13:50:53" It was happening long before immigrant drivers was a thing anything short of memorizing where ever low bridge in north america is training isnt going to help and farm machinery really farmers still hit shit low power lines shed doors a fare amount ask any farmer with kids lol my #1 "

#1 suspect Cell phones since the cell this has gotten worse then texting worse again with all the distractions plus higher trailers and loads since that underpass was built and calling truck drivers dumb you don't have a clue.

JessieJay said "It is one thing to get routed on the wrong road, and quite another to hit a bridge because you ignored the flashing lights. As a driver it is your job to watch the road and know the yellow flashing lights mean something: Caution! problem ahead. Dont know what the lights are warning you about? Then slow down and pay attention! If you are too tired, or too distracted to notice tbe lights then you shouldn't be driving. What a lame bunch of excuses some of you have. "

You never missed a sign ever? an inexperienced driver tends to trust dispatch when they screw up on weights load restrictions all the time until you have been there your jut talking out of your hat obviously they missed the sign other wise they intentionally hit the bridge