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For those of you suggesting people with medical exemptions stay home - I'm glad others have already chimed in on that.  
 
A little additional thinking on this though:  
 
If someone could not, for medical reasons, wear a seatbelt - would you tell them not to drive?  
 
Well guess what, there are medical exemptions to wearing seatbelts contained within the highway traffic act.  
 
So yeah - everyone should mind their own business.

Now that is interesting, as a couple of weeks (or so) ago, the media had a story that said some Wpg businesses were doing that to some people within the province. When that practice became known, they were officially chastised for doing so and had to reverse that policy.  
 
Not like I am planning to go to Wpg, but I wonder which places these are? I am curious to know if they are the same businesses repeating this or new ones.  
 
Edited by Flutterby, 2020-08-22 15:02:03

that the 2 (i can't remember the names) which publicly announced they would require negative covid tests went back on that. But then others, like Southdale village restaurant kicked people out that were wearing wheat kings hats.

Yes i would like to know as well.. but apparently there are 2 different cases at 2 separate times that multiple restaurants were doing this.  
 
I also remember a PUB rejecting Americans because the were checking peoples ID.  
 
I personally have gone to Winnipeg multiple times.. but never have eaten out anywhere. But I also haven't eaten out since March of this year.. lol.  
 
Edited by Iceman69, 2020-08-22 15:20:22

With the risk of being hated for commenting, here are some that I have heard of. Some people with asthma & PTSD (an often hidden mental health issue), and some with autism. There are also very young children who might not be able to. I have read of other conditions, and have posted about those elsewhere. There are not many who have these conditions in the greater population, but they exist and it is best to be aware and to be kind & respectful of those who cannot wear a mask.  
 
I have stated before that I cannot wear one, but, I recently got a face shield from a place in Brandon that I can wear. I am so grateful to be able to have been given this as a solution. It will enable me to go out if I have to. Right now, with the agitated state everyone is in, that will certainly be rare as I don't want to be assaulted, even though I am trying my best.

According the CMPA ACPM that is false, "There are no medical conditions that justify the exemption from wearing a seat belt." And two regulatory associations have adopted this as well including the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Manitoba.  
 
Stop being an idiot you want the source here you go  
https://www.cmpa-acpm.ca/en/advice-publications/browse-articles/2010/doc-i-can-t-wear-a-seatbelt  
 
Go spout your nonsense somewhere else you idiot!

As usual, name calling and anger from the ebrandon crowd. Lots of maturity.  
 
As I said, I'm not anti mask whatsoever. However, if you took two seconds to look at the highway traffic act in any province, including Manitoba and Ontario, you'd see medical exemptions to seatbelt use are in fact contained in the regulations. I am correct, you are not.  
 
Go be immature somewhere else.  
 
Whether medical professionals agree that they should be is another question.

I’ve seen a few people comment that masks protect both other people and themselves.  
The benefit of wearing masks is to prevent you, the mask wearer, from infecting other people with covid or any other virus should you have a virus in your respiratory system. Wearing a mask does not protect the wearer. The wearer is only protected if other people wear a mask as well.  
So speaking further to people who can’t wear a mask. They should still be able to go out but hand sanitizing and socially distancing themselves is that much more important. Telling people who can’t wear masks to stay home doesn’t make sense.  
 
I would still like to hear why other people may feel they can’t wear a mask

if someone claims to be exempt from wearing a seatbelt, only that person is affected if they do not wear one. If you do not wear a mask-in the event you are infected, with or without symptoms, and you go out in public, you have the potential to infect anyone you come in contact with. Your choice affects all the rest of us, so choosing to not wear a mask (stay at home) cannot really be compared to choosing to not wear a seatbelt (go for it, travel all you like)

You're right, there are differences in who is impacted. No argument there. My point was just that people shouldn't be telling others with medical exemptions that they can't leave home, can't do this, can't do that, etc.  
 
The government allows the exemptions. If people disagree, take it up with the government. But there are reasons exemptions are written into law.

You have the right to not wear a mask. A business has the right to deny you entry. If you enter anyway, you are trespassing and can be charged legally.  
 
Simple solution, if you are adamant about not wearing a mask, you don't get to go shopping or enter other places open to the public during a public health order.  
 
*** As an aside, some people may very well have an exemption for seatbelts. If they get in my car, the seatbelt is on or the car doesn't move. If they then take it off, the car will be stopped again. You wear a seatbelt in my vehicle or you are not in my vehicle.

Actually, thinking through this statement, any person not wearing a seatbelt is a potential projectile in an accident. You don't even have to be in the same vehicle to be hit by that projectile. It can potentially harm one or more if you are flying through the air & hit someone in the end. It will harm you as well. That is one good reason why animals should be restrained in a vehicle. Just a thought.  
 
I am not commenting on exemptions nor rights, only the line of thought with regards to who can be hurt with this particular scenario.  
 
Edited by Flutterby, 2020-08-22 17:59:05

My concern is the people who are so ready to snitch on people without masks and who may get in the face of those who aren't wearing a mask acting all authoritarian like (and possibly be verbally abusive or even it could elevate to violence.) I think the only ones who can ask about medical exemptions is store clerks/supervisors/restaraunt staff/security, not the average citizen wondering around ...it's none of the average citizens business why someone isn't wearing a mask. There was one person who posted on this site about masks who politely approached someone and let them know about the masks being mandatory and they did it politely, and it sounds like it was done out of kindness but there will be people who aren't polite. If those who can't wear a mask want to wear a shield then that's cool but don't expect everyone who can't wear a mask should wear a shield because those who have emotional issues of something on their face (or other reasons) may not be able to wear a shield and it's their choice, they shouldn't be bullied into wearing one either... I really hope this mandatory mask doesn't cause violence verbally or physical.  
So where on the MB site does it say we have to wear masks in public if not in a store/restraunt/ or a public gathering ? I've seen comments that make it sound like we have to wear them as soon as we step out of the house.  
 
Edited by cheeseburgermonster, 2020-08-22 18:39:37

I have a medical condition so I can’t wear a mask. I bought a face shield. There’s 2 sides to this, if you are so scared of getting Covid it is much safer at home. You can pay bills online, and got groceries delivered. Js

This post made me laugh so hard I cried. You have a great sense of humour. Thanks for the moment!

He says there are no medical reasons for someone to not wear a mask. He has a number of clients who have severe respiratory health issues and they all wear masks.  
 
My guess is those who refuse to wear a mask are using this excuse to avoid the mask. Only other reason is for someone with anxiety who feels claustrophobic but that again is simply a mindset that the person can overcome given the risks of spreading covid. They should see a therapist about their fears.  
As for long term risks of wearing a mask I think is a non issue because people have been wearing masks for hundreds of years in various jobs or other tasks. We cover our faces in winter to protect from cold air.

You nailed it. There are lots of people that wear more heavy duty masks for much longer periods and have done so for many years with no issues. All these people talking about how it's all madness, mould and respiratory issues are just the people that refuse to wear one. They are making up any excuse they can think of to attempt to strengthen their argument. Also another reason why we need to adapt and learn to live with COVID because these people will keep the virus active for a long time to come without a vaccine.