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vidyut said "Banks charge extra if you go to teller and takeout money. so they have same concept of saving money as corporate,     but think of whole society not just for you as per convenience,     The only motive of this discussion was that these corporate should not govern our lives, "

What bank are you dealing with? I have never been charged to cash a cheque or deposit money, ever. I pay a monthly service fee and it makes no difference if I use a machine or a real life teller.

I only go to the self checkout when it's convenient! The line up is always a mile long in superstore to get to the cashier! And the self checkout is always fast and line up is never long!!

Also yes some cashier maybe slow because they are in training! But then you notice cashiers who you've seen work the tills at these stores for years and they just don't give a damn how slow or miserable looking they are! If they are having a bad day, suck it up, smile and be polite' it's your job! If you don't like it quit! I'm pretty sure your replaceable! I hate going to a slow, snotty crabby cashier!

Everyone has said the same line all the time about local businesses.... " shop local" " Keep our money in our community" However there are local businesses failing to meet the needs of their families. Shop local.... They will never be able to afford expensive self checkout machines, and they spend their money locally.

people will retain jobs and get more.

geminiguy27 said "Everyone has said the same line all the time about local businesses.... " shop local" " Keep our money in our community" However there are local businesses failing to meet the needs of their families. Shop local.... They will never be able to afford expensive self checkout machines, and they spend their money locally. "

in the thread about what stores you want to see, none are local. There big multi-national companies.

to say shop local, support the mom and pop stores, etc etc. The reality us-at least for many of us-we have to make our dollar go as far as possible . This means shopping where there is the best deal. If Walmart will sell me 10 cans of cat food for $6 I cannot afford to buy those same 10 cans of cat food for $8 at some smaller store. If all I needed were those 10 cans then no problem. When I buy 100 cans then that price differs nice is an issue. Same with the grocery items I buy-I shop for the best deal on everything and if the big chain store has the best price on one or more items I need that is where I will shop for those items. Likewise if every till has a long line up then I will likely use the self serve line, because usually it moves quite quickly. The other day in Wal Mart every line was open-so I cannot say I see the new self serve checkouts reducing the number of people hired to work as cashiers.

Just because you see one less cashier doesn't necessarily mean ppl are losing jobs. Someone has to supply and produce the materials that the self checkout machine is made from. Someone needs to build said machine. Market it. Ship it. Need people to install it. Service it. For all we know it creates more jobs then just having one person stand there for an 8 hour shift.

JessieJay said "to say shop local, support the mom and pop stores, etc etc. The reality us-at least for many of us-we have to make our dollar go as far as possible . This means shopping where there is the best deal. If Walmart will sell me 10 cans of cat food for $6 I cannot afford to buy those same 10 cans of cat food for $8 at some smaller store. If all I needed were those 10 cans then no problem. When I buy 100 cans then that price differs nice is an issue. Same with the grocery items I buy-I shop for the best deal on everything and if the big chain store has the best price on one or more items I need that is where I will shop for those items. Likewise if every till has a long line up then I will likely use the self serve line, because usually it moves quite quickly. The other day in Wal Mart every line was open-so I cannot say I see the new self serve checkouts reducing the number of people hired to work as cashiers. "

why everyone is crying for a Costco!!

what they need to do is put more "cashiers" on the floor to help people find things, answer questions etc. Home depot, wallmart canadian tire super store, all suffer the same thing, can't any one to help on the floor.  
 
I can help myself on the checkouts, its on the floor that they need to have people actually helping people find the stuff they are looking for and then helping folks make a decision as to choices.  
 
I think those staffers on the floor would enjoy the job more, than listening to bitchy people cause the line is slow.

jetsfan9 said "Just because you see one less cashier doesn't necessarily mean ppl are losing jobs. Someone has to supply and produce the materials that the self checkout machine is made from. Someone needs to build said machine. Market it. Ship it. Need people to install it. Service it. For all we know it creates more jobs then just having one person stand there for an 8 hour shift. "

I'm not against self checkouts at all but thought your reply was rather funny considering they're likely made in China.

not loosing jobs, people don't want to work or don't want that job. I would be curious on how many stores have problems to hire cashiers. Machines are always there, dont' complain, don't look at the clock to leave and don't go for strikes

corporate stores would sell cheap Chinese goods, local stores can fight these stores with quality stuff,  
 
or government have to impose more taxes and duties on Chinese imports,  
 
By the way I guess self checkout machines are also Chinese made

JD said "    jetsfan9 said "Just because you see one less cashier doesn't necessarily mean ppl are losing jobs. Someone has to supply and produce the materials that the self checkout machine is made from. Someone needs to build said machine. Market it. Ship it. Need people to install it. Service it. For all we know it creates more jobs then just having one person stand there for an 8 hour shift. " I'm not against self checkouts at all but thought your reply was rather funny considering they're likely made in China. "

None of those jobs described above are local jobs.

It was great to use the self check out today. When I pulled out my visa, I never had to tell the cashier 5 times that I did not want a Wal Mart mastercard!

Used it at Walmart tonite. Absolutley horrible experience. Good thing a cashier was close by to help. May be OK for 3-4 items but noy good for half a cart full. Keep our cashiers- WAY WAY FASTER.

This would only be true if every checkout was open all the time, but they aren't. These will take the place of the empty ones, and at least two people man them. The small number of items folks take through the self checks will only make life easier for those will full carts.

I like the idea now that I have mastered the technology (for the most part). In fact, last time I was at super I didn''''t need any assistance. Even with bulk of produce items.  
 
The only time I skip self checkout is with discounted (30% off) items. You can do them also, but you need to call the person over. So may as well just use a staffed checkout.  
 
The technology is here to stay, for better or worse. So you can either fight it and eventually be dragged into the 21st centery, or work with it.  
 
I''''m reminded of a conversation about VOIP providers a few days ago, people reccomending cheap alternatives. The reason why they are so cheap is due to needing a fraction of the capital and labor of the traditional providers. It helps when the providers themselves are your infrustructure. Makes one wonder who foots that increasing cost.  
There is nothing really wrong with choosing such alternatives. But the more people do, the more the competition will have to scale back.  
 
The way I see it is, you can either let yourself be run over, or you can figure out where you fit in.  
 
Edited by Simonwalcal, 2016-08-03 02:26:42

used self checkout machines at walmart today and like it very much which are much better than superstore. Superstore you have to scan and scan and scan then it reads it. Walmart you scan once, read it, also says the price

Things make themselves, and repair themselves, and program themselves.  
Next thing you know, machines will slice bread.

I though machines already sliced bread

Only buy bread sliced by hand. Save a baker''s job. Also the bread must be made from grain planted and harvested by hand. No job-stealing tractors or combines in my food chain, please.  
 
Edited by ultraguy, 2016-09-05 08:16:24

machines don't complain. You build a machine and the machine will take the job and work. You build a business and give a job to people and they complain and hear them 'can't wait to finish my shift' or 'ah can't wait for the weekend', 'ah work again'.  
Some cashiers have no smile, they look worse than someone working in a field all day.

We used walmarts self scan the other day thinking it would be faster. We normally really like them at other stores. I don't know if we got a bad one or what but it was the worst lol. It was so touchy and kept telling us we needed the staff member. It took forever!!