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I'll never understand why this is such a hard concept for drivers to understand. Every single time a light is down in Brandon and it's flashing amber or red, it's a gong show. Me and my kids nearly got smashed up today trying to proceed through one.  
 
For the record, if you have a flashing red, treat is as a STOP SIGN. That means you stop and you wait until it's safe to proceed. If you have a flashing amber, slow it down a bit and proceed with caution (mostly for the people who have the red light and think it's their turn to go). Unless ALL FOUR ways are flashing red, this is not to be treated as a four way stop! Amber travels through cautiously, red STOPS and proceeds when it's safe to do so.

I agree! Read the driver' s manual.  
I got honked at and some dirty looks as I proceeded slowly through the flashing amber.  
One of these times there will be an accident caused by not following the rules!!

yes that drives me crazy too same with many other rules people dont understand, ive been yelled at and given dirty looks ect for following the rules many times and Im a professional, i have been tested on the rules more times then i can count lol so i know i know my stuff but i figure they just dont know what they dont know lol sad really

18th and Rosser today.

This is Brandon. It has its own set of rules for every traffic sign there is and how to drive in general!  
 
You are right. It seems that over half the people who drive in our city can''t get this simple concept figured out.  
 
Edited by unbreakable1, 2017-08-06 15:21:48

Brandoncitychick said "I'll never understand why this is such a hard concept for drivers to understand. Every single time a light is down in Brandon and it's flashing amber or red, it's a gong show. Me and my kids nearly got smashed up today trying to proceed through one.     For the record, if you have a flashing red, treat is as a STOP SIGN. That means you stop and you wait until it's safe to proceed. If you have a flashing amber, slow it down a bit and proceed with caution (mostly for the people who have the red light and think it's their turn to go). Unless ALL FOUR ways are flashing red, this is not to be treated as a four way stop! Amber travels through cautiously, red STOPS and proceeds when it's safe to do so. "

the idiot who trains new to canada folks teaches the bare min so they no nothing and as for evryone else we have all been told so many different things u never know what to do  
 
i believe it should be flashing red all the way around just like a 4 way solve all the issues that way

unbreakable1 said "This is Brandon. It has its own set of rules for every traffic sign there is and how to drive in general!     You are right. It seems that over half the people who drive in our city can''t get this simple concept figured out.     Edited by unbreakable1, 2017-08-06 15:21:48"

big signs coming into town all say speed limit is 50 unless otherwise posted not 60 not 70 and surly not 80 i think this town needs way more speed limit signs and way better enforcement

Also don't drive on 30-40km/h either.  
50-55km/h is what most drivers in the city should be driving. It pisses me off when people drive 30km/h is freaking summer.

Me And My Wife said "    Brandoncitychick said "I'll never understand why this is such a hard concept for drivers to understand. Every single time a light is down in Brandon and it's flashing amber or red, it's a gong show. Me and my kids nearly got smashed up today trying to proceed through one.     For the record, if you have a flashing red, treat is as a STOP SIGN. That means you stop and you wait until it's safe to proceed. If you have a flashing amber, slow it down a bit and proceed with caution (mostly for the people who have the red light and think it's their turn to go). Unless ALL FOUR ways are flashing red, this is not to be treated as a four way stop! Amber travels through cautiously, red STOPS and proceeds when it's safe to do so. " the idiot who trains new to canada folks teaches the bare min so they no nothing and as for evryone else we have all been told so many different things u never know what to do     i believe it should be flashing red all the way around just like a 4 way solve all the issues that way "

Do you realize what a nightmare that would cause. A flashing red all ways in intersection like 18 and Victoria would be a nightmare. 8+ vehicles coming to a stop all nearly at the same time and your supposed to keep track. especially when some of them don't go when they are supposed to?  
people have a problem dealing with a regular 4 way, never mind 8 ways. Any intersection with more than 4 ways going straight, should never have all lanes blinking red. the road with the most lanes going one way should be blinking amber the other red. Anything else is a accident waiting to happen, unless the entire intersection only has 4 lanes.

I drove in Winnipeg just a few days ago and met not one, but two intersections with flashing amber lights. Nobody, I repeat, nobody stopped at them. They all know you "proceed with caution" at a flashing amber.  
Anyone who knows the rules and comes to Brandon (where people don't follow them) are going to have an accident and get blamed, yet it's the city inhabitants who are clearly to blame.

rum said "    Me And My Wife said "    Brandoncitychick said "I'll never understand why this is such a hard concept for drivers to understand. Every single time a light is down in Brandon and it's flashing amber or red, it's a gong show. Me and my kids nearly got smashed up today trying to proceed through one.     For the record, if you have a flashing red, treat is as a STOP SIGN. That means you stop and you wait until it's safe to proceed. If you have a flashing amber, slow it down a bit and proceed with caution (mostly for the people who have the red light and think it's their turn to go). Unless ALL FOUR ways are flashing red, this is not to be treated as a four way stop! Amber travels through cautiously, red STOPS and proceeds when it's safe to do so. " the idiot who trains new to canada folks teaches the bare min so they no nothing and as for evryone else we have all been told so many different things u never know what to do     i believe it should be flashing red all the way around just like a 4 way solve all the issues that way " Do you realize what a nightmare that would cause. A flashing red all ways in intersection like 18 and Victoria would be a nightmare. 8+ vehicles coming to a stop all nearly at the same time and your supposed to keep track. especially when some of them don't go when they are supposed to?   people have a problem dealing with a regular 4 way, never mind 8 ways. Any intersection with more than 4 ways going straight, should never have all lanes blinking red. the road with the most lanes going one way should be blinking amber the other red. Anything else is a accident waiting to happen, unless the entire intersection only has 4 lanes. "

the thing is you can believe what you want about how it "should" be but facts are that flashing amber proceeds with caution and flashing red stops, as long as that's followed you have a right to think you'd like it different, as far as to say you've been told so many different things, the rules are in the book and plain as day, people should read it and follow it, if you cant then IMO you shouldn't be driving

traveller said "    rum said "    Me And My Wife said "    Brandoncitychick said "I'll never understand why this is such a hard concept for drivers to understand. Every single time a light is down in Brandon and it's flashing amber or red, it's a gong show. Me and my kids nearly got smashed up today trying to proceed through one.     For the record, if you have a flashing red, treat is as a STOP SIGN. That means you stop and you wait until it's safe to proceed. If you have a flashing amber, slow it down a bit and proceed with caution (mostly for the people who have the red light and think it's their turn to go). Unless ALL FOUR ways are flashing red, this is not to be treated as a four way stop! Amber travels through cautiously, red STOPS and proceeds when it's safe to do so. " the idiot who trains new to canada folks teaches the bare min so they no nothing and as for evryone else we have all been told so many different things u never know what to do     i believe it should be flashing red all the way around just like a 4 way solve all the issues that way " Do you realize what a nightmare that would cause. A flashing red all ways in intersection like 18 and Victoria would be a nightmare. 8+ vehicles coming to a stop all nearly at the same time and your supposed to keep track. especially when some of them don't go when they are supposed to?   people have a problem dealing with a regular 4 way, never mind 8 ways. Any intersection with more than 4 ways going straight, should never have all lanes blinking red. the road with the most lanes going one way should be blinking amber the other red. Anything else is a accident waiting to happen, unless the entire intersection only has 4 lanes. " the thing is you can believe what you want about how it "should" be but facts are that flashing amber proceeds with caution and flashing red stops, as long as that's followed you have a right to think you'd like it different, as far as to say you've been told so many different things, the rules are in the book and plain as day, people should read it and follow it, if you cant then IMO you shouldn't be driving "

Traveller I never said people should not follow the rules. I try my best to follow them. At a flashing amber I proceed through the intersection unless someone cuts me off, than I stop. I remain cautious as nobody seems to know whats going on. some treat it like a 8 way stop, but cars keep pulling out in random order creating chaos. But there is no problem if I simple follow the rules as I simply proceed straight through without stopping, slowing down and stopping if cut off.  
When I happen to be on the side with the flashing red, I stop. and proceed when safe. I know for a fact there will never be a flashing amber both ways. I also highly doubt it there will ever be a flashing red on a intersection with more than 4 lanes. so if I have a flashing red I know the others have a flashing amber therefore I must yield right of way. (but just in case I'm wrong I'll give a quick look to the other light to ensure it is indeed flashing amber, to ensure I'm not yielding right of way when I shouldn't.)  
 
At times when I see both cars that should not yield have come to complete stop thinking I should go, then I will go Even though I shouldn't. I will have determined it is safe to proceed, even though I don't have the right of way. I will do that for 2 reasons. 1 is selfish, as I am not going to wait till the other cars determine they are in the wrong, and the 2nd reason is so that I will not be the person restricting traffic in the intersection thus clearing it as soon as possible.  
 
I don't know why you quoted me but All I was saying is it would cause chaos if a flashing red was used for all ways at a 8 way intersection. I''m 90 percent sure in those cases there is always a flashing amber and a flashing red.  
 
Edited by rum, 2017-08-07 18:15:33

i was meaning to quote what Me And My Wife said, as in they would like to see it as always a 4 way flashing amber, and that they have been told many things and dont know what to believe, as you see in my comments those ideas is what i was referencing too, i also wasnt implying that anyone said they shouldnt follow the rules, just that everyone has a right to think what they want but safe driving does depend on following the rules, like them or not  
 
it is actually more dangerous, and not conducive to traffic flow, for drivers to be "nice" and not follow the rules, especially on a multi lane road, imagine one car stops, thinking oh those poor guys cant get across, as they are going across someone in the other lane (with the right of way) proceeds and misses the fact someone is going out of turn, accident! sure more then one guy is at fault but if everyone acted in a predictable manor it does reduce the risks, which sounds like you rum, understand but many dont

It never helps when the local pop station advised to treat them like a four way stop...

50 km/h is the maximum speed under ideal driving conditions. If you're in a residential area with parked cars, children, and no clear lines of sight the speed limit is significantly less. Speed are always based on conditions.

50 km/h is the maximum speed under ideal driving conditions. If you're in a residential area with parked cars, children, and no clear lines of sight the speed limit is significantly less. Speed are always based on conditions.

Hey! said "50 km/h is the maximum speed under ideal driving conditions. If you're in a residential area with parked cars, children, and no clear lines of sight the speed limit is significantly less. Speed are always based on conditions. "

As you stated, 50 km/h is the maximum speed under ideal driving conditions in an urban setting, unless otherwise posted. This also i:ncludeS residential areas. There is not a reduced speed limit in residential areas with parked cars, children and no clear lines of sight. It is wrong statements like these that create confusion for people that don't know.  
 
I do agree that extra caution should be exercised under these conditions and speed should probably be reduced. However, unless it is posted otherwise, the speed limit is 50 km/h.  
 
I could be wrong, and if so, please provide a link stating where the speed limit is significantly reduced.

At those flashing ambers I always yield anyways. Even though I'm not supposed to. Being a defensive driver I don't know that all those other people are going to stop. Even though I have the right away. clearly there is some confusion about it in our city. Sorry if that makes ya mad behind me. Rather slow right up and proceed with caution then get smashed up.

I think being predictable and obeying the rules of the road would generally reduce the odds of a smash-up, instead of being unpredictable and doing whatever you feel like.

Orion's-Belt said "At those flashing ambers I always yield anyways. Even though I'm not supposed to. Being a defensive driver I don't know that all those other people are going to stop. Even though I have the right away. clearly there is some confusion about it in our city. Sorry if that makes ya mad behind me. Rather slow right up and proceed with caution then get smashed up. "

there is a difference between yielding and proceeding with caution  
 
Yeilding means give right of way to the opposing traffic (ie. stopping if someone is coming ect) where proceeding with caution means taking the right of way but watching to be safe  
 
slowing a bit on a flashing amber to watch (drive defensively)and go if no one is going to hit you is acceptable, yeilding (stopping) when you are not supposed to is not. Its actually quite unsafe causes issues ect, but it almost seems to be that you arent yeilding but if you are please just, no

traveller said "    Orion's-Belt said "At those flashing ambers I always yield anyways. Even though I'm not supposed to. Being a defensive driver I don't know that all those other people are going to stop. Even though I have the right away. clearly there is some confusion about it in our city. Sorry if that makes ya mad behind me. Rather slow right up and proceed with caution then get smashed up. " there is a difference between yielding and proceeding with caution     Yeilding means give right of way to the opposing traffic (ie. stopping if someone is coming ect) where proceeding with caution means taking the right of way but watching to be safe     slowing a bit on a flashing amber to watch (drive defensively)and go if no one is going to hit you is acceptable, yeilding (stopping) when you are not supposed to is not. Its actually quite unsafe causes issues ect, but it almost seems to be that you arent yeilding but if you are please just, no "

If you are stopping the people with the flashing red don't know what your intentions are. You are part of the problem. The only time you have to yield is when there is traffic in the intersection. Just because you have a flashing yellow doesn't give you the full right of way.

If people can't comprehend that school zone speed during non school months, then we shouldn't expect them to understand The concept of flashing lights.

I had a conversation with a few friends awhile back where they complained that Brandon hasn't followed the same system as Wpg, in that at night, the main street flashes yellow and the intersecting street flashes red. That would be catastrophic in Brandon.  
 
I really just can't understand why people don't know this. It's a nightmare every time I approach an intersection that's out. Thankfully they don't seem to go down that often.

and stopping completely is what is causing confusion at least in part.  
 
I think the problem is not that people do not knwo how to treat a flashing amber or flashing red, It is that we dont trust what the city or the province is going to put up at any given intersection.  
 
it could be all amber flashing, it could be a 4 way stop with all 4 flashing red, or it could be red and amber flashing. But when you stop at the red you dont know for sure what the other side has. I know your supposed to wait till it is safe to proceed but if you see a car slowing down for an amber that you think is red, is it safe to go? or do you wait for the complete stop.  
 
would it be so difficult to have temporary signage attached to the light standards when they are out and flashing that indicate how they are set up, that way you know what the other side is seeing.  
 
what about the traffic act having rules in place province wide so that there are never an all red flashing intersection, they will always be red/amber flashing combinations. that way we know for sure what the other side has and can drive accordingly.