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Canadian Values

nelkhorn
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nelkhorn
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Canadian Values
2/4/2017 at 12:25 PM

Here's a thought.
When JT the PM talks about "Canadian Values" he is seen as a hero or at least seen as defending the Canadian way of life.
But when Kellie Leitch wants to ask immigrant applicants if they have these "Canadian Values", she is classed as a racist.
What gives?
Adam

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Adam
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Values
2/4/2017 at 12:56 PM

To provide further context, please share links to reputable sources that would speak to:
- what each person you've named would seem to identify as Canadian values. For example I was reading this speech where the Prime Minister refers to diversity and inclusion as being core... something I'd have a hard time disagreeing with
- who is referring to who as being "racist" and whether there is and common ground between individuals using each of the labels you've described here.
Sometimes in discussions that want to go in the direction of talking about double-standards it's either a minority of people throwing around labels or it isn't these same people labelling on both "sides" of the fence, so this info is helpful in forming basis for discussion.

Thx in advance
Flutterby

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Flutterby
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2/4/2017 at 7:03 PM

What I keep wondering is why they keep using those phrases, but leaving them open to interpretation. Why won't anybody give a breakdown of their specific definition. With no explanation on what they mean by these virtually almost now meaningless generic terms, the polititians can fit into it almost anything they want...or media can twist it in whatever way they wish whenever they feel the need to.
JR
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JR
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2/4/2017 at 8:06 PM

Leitch is to "Canadian values" as Trump is to "American values". After all, she's the one who wanted to introduce a "tip line" for reporting "barbaric cultural practices". She made it sound like none of these acts were illegal in Canada because the perpetrators were practicing their non-Canadian cultural rituals. It was a complete load of bigoted hogwash.
don brown
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don brown
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Canadian values
2/4/2017 at 9:06 PM

Read this earlier in the day and tried to define to myself what Canadian values might be, and came to the conclusion that defining Canadian values was a pretty subjective idea.
Look at it this way, a person lives in a city on Smith street, when a house comes up for sale the realtor asks anyone who looks at the house if they have Smith street values. So the values have to be defined. One of the smith street values is that a person must have a religion, because on Smith street everyone has a religion, another value is that if people are living together they must be married, and if there are children there have to be two parents, no single parent families, a person could go on and on about what the Smith street values are, but by defining values, you take away the right of people to live there lives as they wish.
In the last little while I think we have seen something that reflects Canadian values, it is not religion, race, ethnic origin or politics, it is the coming together as people of a country, with the understanding that we all have to pull together to live a life of peace and freedom.
In my lifetime I have witnessed American values at there best, and they usually are in the times of a tragedy, the sad part is after the shock and the initial response to help, come those who wish to exploit the tragedy for their own gains.