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IMO.. the arrows on the floor need to go. No one uses it..no one cares.. take it off. The safest bet is to wear a mask. Lines on the floor dont mean anything because you still need to pass the person in front of you in the aisle.  
 
People need to grow up!  
 
Masks will be mandatory come fall.

It only taken a few Shoppers like this rude lady to spread the virus.  
How hard is it to follow the one ways & social distance.

Thank you for bring gracious.  
 
Sorry about the late reply, but yes, I have. Not just now, but even when younger for other purposes. I had some mild reaction back then, but it is much worse now...after the incident that changed things for me is when it became a no go.  
 
When my daughter was making masks, she wanted me to try one on for size. That was the hardest thing ever. She thought my reaction was funny, but putting that over my face brought such an instant negative reaction, I don't want to go there again.  
 
I have temporarily overcome a few similar things by moving forward slowly, forcing the issue, or talking through it, but this one seems to stick.  
 
I have no issue with anyone wearing a mask, provided its worn correctly. I would wear one if I could. There are some beautiful ones out there!  
 
We still haven't brought all of our kids into a store. Some of them haven't been into a store since before this whole thing started in earnest. The first ones to go with us hadn't been in one for over 3 months.  
 
I have wondered, what is going to happen within stores if schools open fully...and without masks & reduced distancing as is being recommended by mental health professionals? There is talk about that. How would it make a difference in the stores if kids are already gathering in closed spaces within close proximity?

Where did I say I don’t follow the arrows and social distance? I stated that there is no fine for not following the arrows, that’s ridiculous and completely false.

So get over yourself. Sorry but the "rights" of individuals come after the rights of society at large. Driving while under the influence is a prime example of this. Ask any politician or lawyer. Also, I would look into the "assault charge" as well as disregarding a public health mandate along with a business store policy. I would check with a police officer on that one. But go ahead and continue to claim that you have rights. Oh yeah, where in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms does it claim you have the right to potentially harm others by refusing to mask up? Good grief!  
 
Edited by Gussins, 2020-07-17 09:06:41

I always shake my head at people claiming "rights" to do this or that (or not do this or that). They often fail to acknowledge that with rights come responsibilities. That's the only way you can ensure *everyone* has access to those same rights. They are basically counterpoint.  
 
In the context of masks, people have the *right* to not wear a mask, primarily as a right to bodily autonomy. But my *rights* of bodily autonomy means I should be able to take steps to minimize injury by the virus and not be subject to exposure any more than reasonably necessary.  
 
For responsibility, everyone has the responsibility to not pass the virus to anyone else, in order to protect their *right* to avoid injury. That responsibility can encompass many actions, including avoiding public places unless necessary (i.e. only essentials), maintaining distancing, and in some circumstances, wearing masks, to the best of their ability (recognizing there are some people can't wear masks for physical or psychological reasons, which is perfectly legitimate, as that falls under their rights for protecting their own health).  
 
A mask is the easiest way to fulfill one's responsibilities to protect everyone's rights. It allows freedom of movement and interaction in cases where our infection status is unknown (which is pretty much everyone, unless you've had a very recent negative test and have not had any contact with anyone since). You accept a responsibility to protect the rights of everyone, including yourself.  
 
Rights are supposed to equal the playing field, not stratify it. A person who claims their "rights" precludes them to taking basic, recommended precautions as a matter of responsibility is saying that their rights are greater than the rights of others.  
 
To quote a certain barnyard animal: "All animals are equal. Some are more equal than others."  
 
Edited by Abbysmum, 2020-07-17 11:24:19

Stay home . If you have to go out wear a mask. If you don't wear a mask stay home. If you feel your more important than than the rest of us, and feel you have a right not to wear a mask, stay home.

That seems unfair to the workers. They deserve to be protected.

What right do you have to tell the general public what to do? Are you going to approach everyone in Brandon and enforce this rule you have made up? Good luck with that! Wow. Unbelievable!  
 
Edited by (vette)mech, 2020-07-17 20:26:20

Just reported that a person who was symptomatic was shopping on July 11 in Brandon at Safeway/Starbucks. I hope that they were wearing a mask, and that if you were there, that you were wearing one too. Check CBC or CTV news for more details.

If you don't like wearing a mask, you really won't like a ventilator. I won't approach anyone, or say anything. It should be common sense at this stage of the pandemic to social distance, wash your hands, and wear a mask if you can't maintain distancing. Sounds like in this thread that is hard to do when shopping because of some people not following store policies. We only have to look to Saskatchewan to see what can happen if we don't remain diligent. They are having a resurgence as bad as any province per capita. Better to be safe than sorry.

I have used the outside sink at Can Tire once, was just filthy.  
 
Next visit and everyone after that i walk right past sinks, yes get some looks but always stop at Sanitizing Station just inside and Sanitize.

... of all the crazy ideas out there, this one's not half bad!

kind of typifies this whole argument in society right now. Put on a mask. Just shows how trivial this is........."Calm Down!!!!! Walmart's asking you to wear a mask.....you can STILL wear your PAJAMAS!"

What is going to happen is masks will become mandatory in stores as they are now in Quebec. That is what happens when adults refuse to follow the rules. All choice is removed as they are not considering the health of the community and refuse to see past themselves at the bigger picture. Lol. The government doesn't care about the foot stampers whining about their "rights". They want this pandemic over with as soon as possible and by whatever means are necessary.

While I agree that some precautions need to be taken and will be for the foreseeable future, I would hope that people can calm down the spiteful rhetoric on both sides. I get annoyed when people don't follow arrows in stores because those arrows are giving direction. Wearing masks, however, is still personal choice despite logic saying it is not a bad idea.  
 
While people may be right that mask wearing may become mandatory, we are a long way from that as the health region has not seen a case in weeks. I realize there was a symptomatic person in Brandon at one store but we know date and time.  
 
At our current infection rate, I feel comfortable letting people exercise the personal choice they have been left with. However, should we see a case or two, my approach will change.  
 
At this stage, don't ridicule me for not wearing a mask and I will not ridicule anyone for choosing to wear one. Does that sound fair?  
 
Edited by JustASoul, 2020-07-18 21:13:44

I think if you are that worried about the virus, maybe you should stay home. A lot safer than expecting others to do what you think they should.

Not sure what you were reading but I just pulled this from the CDC website whom I tend to follow more closely.  
 
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/social-distancing.html  
 
So if you want to go with a he said, she said simply let the government be the tie-breaker. Or even better, the stores who are ALL wanting people to wear masks.

World health organization advises general public to wear masks in public spaces and advises governments to recommend same.  
 
Edited by Farmergeorge, 2020-07-19 07:38:36

It went from complementing the somewhat ease of shopping and having people put away carts to the Karen's of society jumping all over about frigging masks. Guess what, if a store says it is mandatory to wear a mask, either you shop elsewhere or don't shop at all. Plain and simple. Spewing about your rights and what some organization said about masks isn't going to matter if the store policy is you wear a mask. The argument of staying home if you feel sick is a moot point. You can spread the virus before you even feel sick. With this virus it ranges from a sniffle to full out hospitalization. So if you are going to fuss that much about wearing a bit of cloth over your lips for 20 minutes of shopping I would rather you stay home anyway.

And, after reading many of these posts, that is my concern. Not all can wear masks. Sometimes it is not a choice, and that shouldn't be punished.  
 
It is very unreasonable to expect a person...who cannot wear a mask, to stay at home indefinitely, as some suggested here. If that is the stance one takes, then I agree with the thought of if you are worried about catching/spreading the virus (those people which are those calling for these afflicted people to stay home), then you should be the one staying at home indefinitely. I don't see that that would be welcomed very well by the many supporting masks at all costs...to stay home indefinitely. You get your ____ delivered to your home or get someone else to pick it up for you...for an indefinite time. Many people would find that offensive, unacceptable, and unreasonable, I am sure, and would fight it hard.  
 
As with any other situation, and the PTSD was a real thing with you, you would feel the same about mandatory masks. I feel that I need to be a voice for those who would wear one if they could, but can't. It is a very real thing, even if you might not believe that it is, or don't care...because it isn't you living it...it is not your reality.  
 
For me, it is not a matter of merely fighting whether it is a good idea or not for merely opinion sake (because "I don't like it")...that is irrelevant. I know of other cases where people cannot wear masks for good reason. It doesn't matter if some high ranking yahoo says these things that are affecting people don't exist (I have actually read that...so ignorant). It isn't their reality and doesn't serve their purpose, so of course, it doesn't exist. Who are these people to tell others that it isn't a real thing...just because they themselves aren't affected by the same affliction? That really concerns me and in this case, it does infringe on people's basic rights and it affects the mental health of those people. In that case, it goes way past opinion alone.  
 
I am concerned about cruelty based on assumptions if I went out. Do you know why I am not wearing a mask when I go out...did you ask? Please don't just assume it is because I don't care about others. I take many other precautions...but you assume that I don't do anything and am hard hearted. I hardly go into Brandon (once or twice a month right now). I don't shop every day. I avoid the city if I can. I don't travel. I abide by guidelines.  
 
It is a very real possibility that I will be assaulted in some way at some point, as I am reading here. If I am, I will let you know why I am not wearing a mask. It will be socially distanced (if you allow for it), and I won't be yelling at you (spewing my germs at you). Please consider the mental health of others.  
 
I find it all very frustrating.  
 
Edited by Flutterby, 2020-07-19 10:41:15

was at walmart this morning and they didnt ask me to wear a mask.

..... they cannot wear a mask , a face shield is an option. There was a young lady at one of the mall outlets that was wearing one while she patrolled the incoming customers who indicated she couldn’t wear a mask.

We should all be paying close attention to what is going on now with today’s update on all the new cases. Let this be a reminder that now is not the time to be complacent or thinking that this virus is nothing to worry about. The virus is definitely here. Everyone should be mindful especially when out at grocery stores and all stores for that matter to follow the stores rules i.e. follow the arrows, they are there for a reason, keep your 6 feet apart, don’t pass others in the aisles, and practice social distancing. These times we are living in are definitely not normal, won’t be normal for a long time and if you want to be a part of getting life as we know it back to some sort of normal, please do what is asked of you. If you can wear a mask, wear one, if not get a face shield. Wearing a mask not only protects you it protects others.

Exactly let's all be Smart!  
Not Stupid!  
We want everyone Safe!!!

12 new cases in total, add another 2 cases for PMH.